<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss version="2.0"
	xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/"
	xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/"
	xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom"
	>
<channel>
	<title>Comments on: School of Hard Knocks Closed Due to Accusations of Bias</title>
	<atom:link href="http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2008/10/10/school-of-hard-knocks-closed-due-to-accusations-of-bias/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" />
	<link>http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2008/10/10/school-of-hard-knocks-closed-due-to-accusations-of-bias/</link>
	<description>Free Minds, Free Markets, Free Booze</description>
	<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 13:56:08 +0000</pubDate>
	<generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.5</generator>
		<item>
		<title>By: Vincent</title>
		<link>http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2008/10/10/school-of-hard-knocks-closed-due-to-accusations-of-bias/#comment-101926</link>
		<dc:creator>Vincent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Oct 2008 20:43:13 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2008/10/10/school-of-hard-knocks-closed-due-to-accusations-of-bias/#comment-101926</guid>
		<description>Well, I just think that the "victim" posture is a byproduct of identity politics in general. That's why Clinton supporters were called "racists", Obama supporters tarred as "sexist", and John McCain &lt;a href="http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,24484967-2703,00.html" rel="nofollow"&gt;got compared to George Wallace&lt;/a&gt; by a member of Congress.

Far from fostering "diversity", the politics of identity segregate people into narrowly-defined groups and people outside those groups, fellow travelers aside, are assumed to be hostile and motivated by "hate". The supposed &lt;i&gt;necessity&lt;/i&gt; of those groups is thereby reinforced since the implication is that, since the rest of the country is actively or passively working against the identity group's interests, only the group itself stands in the way of complete marginalization (or worse, as the rhetoric sometimes goes).

I think this is why one sees such shock and disgust with gay Republicans, feminist Palin supporters, and so forth. Homosexuals who define themselves primarily on other traits of their personality - belief in free markets, a vigorous foreign policy, or any number of other beliefs that form political beliefs - are routinely savaged for being turncoats, being "off reservation", as it were, and assumed to be acting under "false consciousness". That is to say that the assumption is that they don't &lt;i&gt;really&lt;/i&gt; know what's good for them because they've chosen different priorities than those ordained by the identity group - the "gay" identity is supposed to take priority. Reading some Andrew Sullivan with an eye toward this dynamic might be useful.

To get back to your comment, I don't think that what you're seeing really has to do with the "reality on the ground" in Eugene or anywhere else. It's the result of the politics of identity: us vs. them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I just think that the &#8220;victim&#8221; posture is a byproduct of identity politics in general. That&#8217;s why Clinton supporters were called &#8220;racists&#8221;, Obama supporters tarred as &#8220;sexist&#8221;, and John McCain <a href="http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,24484967-2703,00.html" rel="nofollow">got compared to George Wallace</a> by a member of Congress.</p>
<p>Far from fostering &#8220;diversity&#8221;, the politics of identity segregate people into narrowly-defined groups and people outside those groups, fellow travelers aside, are assumed to be hostile and motivated by &#8220;hate&#8221;. The supposed <i>necessity</i> of those groups is thereby reinforced since the implication is that, since the rest of the country is actively or passively working against the identity group&#8217;s interests, only the group itself stands in the way of complete marginalization (or worse, as the rhetoric sometimes goes).</p>
<p>I think this is why one sees such shock and disgust with gay Republicans, feminist Palin supporters, and so forth. Homosexuals who define themselves primarily on other traits of their personality - belief in free markets, a vigorous foreign policy, or any number of other beliefs that form political beliefs - are routinely savaged for being turncoats, being &#8220;off reservation&#8221;, as it were, and assumed to be acting under &#8220;false consciousness&#8221;. That is to say that the assumption is that they don&#8217;t <i>really</i> know what&#8217;s good for them because they&#8217;ve chosen different priorities than those ordained by the identity group - the &#8220;gay&#8221; identity is supposed to take priority. Reading some Andrew Sullivan with an eye toward this dynamic might be useful.</p>
<p>To get back to your comment, I don&#8217;t think that what you&#8217;re seeing really has to do with the &#8220;reality on the ground&#8221; in Eugene or anywhere else. It&#8217;s the result of the politics of identity: us vs. them.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Chris</title>
		<link>http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2008/10/10/school-of-hard-knocks-closed-due-to-accusations-of-bias/#comment-101925</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Oct 2008 18:59:50 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2008/10/10/school-of-hard-knocks-closed-due-to-accusations-of-bias/#comment-101925</guid>
		<description>Well said.  

I wonder why, of all places, Eugene doesn't stand out to the LGBTQ community in a more positive way.  That is, if this general attitude is indeed representative of anyone (or the leadership quoted in the article).  I always thought of 'Berkeley North' as being viewed as another 'haven' for the LGBTQ community.

Perhaps a case study comparing, say, Springfield, Missouri and Eugene, Oregon is in order?  Not to point out the obvious so much as to wonder why, in a place like Eugene, this whole balloonism gets any sort of traction.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well said.  </p>
<p>I wonder why, of all places, Eugene doesn&#8217;t stand out to the LGBTQ community in a more positive way.  That is, if this general attitude is indeed representative of anyone (or the leadership quoted in the article).  I always thought of &#8216;Berkeley North&#8217; as being viewed as another &#8216;haven&#8217; for the LGBTQ community.</p>
<p>Perhaps a case study comparing, say, Springfield, Missouri and Eugene, Oregon is in order?  Not to point out the obvious so much as to wonder why, in a place like Eugene, this whole balloonism gets any sort of traction.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Vincent</title>
		<link>http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2008/10/10/school-of-hard-knocks-closed-due-to-accusations-of-bias/#comment-101924</link>
		<dc:creator>Vincent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Oct 2008 18:29:06 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2008/10/10/school-of-hard-knocks-closed-due-to-accusations-of-bias/#comment-101924</guid>
		<description>&lt;i&gt;I find it interesting that the “climate on campus” here at the U of O is apparently homophobic.&lt;/i&gt;

I think it's indicative of the LGBTQA's bunker mentality, mostly. &lt;i&gt;Any&lt;/i&gt; homophobia, real or perceived, is seen as poisoning the entire culture, even at an institution where "diversity" and "tolerance" rival "the sports program" as the most important thing on campus. One suspects that this hyper-sensitivity to what amount to isolated incidents of &lt;i&gt;possible&lt;/i&gt; bias serves as more of a &lt;i&gt;raison d'etre&lt;/i&gt; for certain campus organizations than anything else. The attitude displayed by Garrison and McGraw is one that thrives on perpetual victimhood and mistrust of a world perceived to be inexorably hostile to them. I would hazard a guess that, to many people, a campus not 100% devoid of any conceivable sort of bias - and I include in that definition the lack of proper "celebration" of LGBTQ culture on the part of the student body -  &lt;i&gt;is&lt;/i&gt; an "anti-gay, balloon hating conserva-campus."

On one hand, it's hard to blame LGBTQ people for feeling that way; many of them &lt;i&gt;have&lt;/i&gt; gone through some horrible things because of their sexuality. On the other hand, constantly playing the victim is a form of self-ghettoization and seems counter-productive to the "empowerment" that seems so central to "out" culture.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>I find it interesting that the “climate on campus” here at the U of O is apparently homophobic.</i></p>
<p>I think it&#8217;s indicative of the LGBTQA&#8217;s bunker mentality, mostly. <i>Any</i> homophobia, real or perceived, is seen as poisoning the entire culture, even at an institution where &#8220;diversity&#8221; and &#8220;tolerance&#8221; rival &#8220;the sports program&#8221; as the most important thing on campus. One suspects that this hyper-sensitivity to what amount to isolated incidents of <i>possible</i> bias serves as more of a <i>raison d&#8217;etre</i> for certain campus organizations than anything else. The attitude displayed by Garrison and McGraw is one that thrives on perpetual victimhood and mistrust of a world perceived to be inexorably hostile to them. I would hazard a guess that, to many people, a campus not 100% devoid of any conceivable sort of bias - and I include in that definition the lack of proper &#8220;celebration&#8221; of LGBTQ culture on the part of the student body -  <i>is</i> an &#8220;anti-gay, balloon hating conserva-campus.&#8221;</p>
<p>On one hand, it&#8217;s hard to blame LGBTQ people for feeling that way; many of them <i>have</i> gone through some horrible things because of their sexuality. On the other hand, constantly playing the victim is a form of self-ghettoization and seems counter-productive to the &#8220;empowerment&#8221; that seems so central to &#8220;out&#8221; culture.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Gsim</title>
		<link>http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2008/10/10/school-of-hard-knocks-closed-due-to-accusations-of-bias/#comment-101922</link>
		<dc:creator>Gsim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Oct 2008 17:07:53 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2008/10/10/school-of-hard-knocks-closed-due-to-accusations-of-bias/#comment-101922</guid>
		<description>I have to give a bit of kudos to the perpetrators. 

It may have been a dick move to set 300 balloons free into the stratosphere, but it is undeniably ballsy to do something like that in broad daylight in front of hundreds of witnesses.

/His balls are made of pure brass
/when they bang together they play stormy weather
/and lighting shoots out of his ass.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to give a bit of kudos to the perpetrators. </p>
<p>It may have been a dick move to set 300 balloons free into the stratosphere, but it is undeniably ballsy to do something like that in broad daylight in front of hundreds of witnesses.</p>
<p>/His balls are made of pure brass<br />
/when they bang together they play stormy weather<br />
/and lighting shoots out of his ass.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Chris</title>
		<link>http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2008/10/10/school-of-hard-knocks-closed-due-to-accusations-of-bias/#comment-101909</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Oct 2008 00:49:22 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2008/10/10/school-of-hard-knocks-closed-due-to-accusations-of-bias/#comment-101909</guid>
		<description>I find it interesting that the "climate on campus" here at the U of O is apparently homophobic.  Isn't this place supposed to be open-minded?  I mean, which are we?  Political, open-minded campus extraordinaire, or anti-gay, balloon hating conserva-campus?

I don't get it.

Either way you look at it, this issue seems to be overblown.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I find it interesting that the &#8220;climate on campus&#8221; here at the U of O is apparently homophobic.  Isn&#8217;t this place supposed to be open-minded?  I mean, which are we?  Political, open-minded campus extraordinaire, or anti-gay, balloon hating conserva-campus?</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t get it.</p>
<p>Either way you look at it, this issue seems to be overblown.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Sakaki</title>
		<link>http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2008/10/10/school-of-hard-knocks-closed-due-to-accusations-of-bias/#comment-101908</link>
		<dc:creator>Sakaki</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Oct 2008 00:11:15 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2008/10/10/school-of-hard-knocks-closed-due-to-accusations-of-bias/#comment-101908</guid>
		<description>Which part? The hamburger part, or the whiny little snots part?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Which part? The hamburger part, or the whiny little snots part?</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Vincent</title>
		<link>http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2008/10/10/school-of-hard-knocks-closed-due-to-accusations-of-bias/#comment-101906</link>
		<dc:creator>Vincent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Oct 2008 23:44:23 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2008/10/10/school-of-hard-knocks-closed-due-to-accusations-of-bias/#comment-101906</guid>
		<description>I think that's overstating it a little, don't you?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that&#8217;s overstating it a little, don&#8217;t you?</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Sakaki</title>
		<link>http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2008/10/10/school-of-hard-knocks-closed-due-to-accusations-of-bias/#comment-101905</link>
		<dc:creator>Sakaki</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Oct 2008 23:41:32 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2008/10/10/school-of-hard-knocks-closed-due-to-accusations-of-bias/#comment-101905</guid>
		<description>They would see someone eating a hamburger, and call it a "hate crime". They are pathetic little whiny snots who need nothing more than to be exposed to the harsh environment known as "reality".</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They would see someone eating a hamburger, and call it a &#8220;hate crime&#8221;. They are pathetic little whiny snots who need nothing more than to be exposed to the harsh environment known as &#8220;reality&#8221;.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
</channel>
</rss>
