Comments on: Shocker: Senators violate Public Meetings Law http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2008/05/14/shocker-senators-violate-public-meetings-law/ Free Minds, Free Markets, Free Booze Tue, 07 Oct 2008 11:13:44 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.3.3 By: Oregon Commentator » Blog Archive » Ink by the Barrel http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2008/05/14/shocker-senators-violate-public-meetings-law/#comment-99761 Oregon Commentator » Blog Archive » Ink by the Barrel Fri, 16 May 2008 20:48:34 +0000 http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2008/05/14/shocker-senators-violate-public-meetings-law/#comment-99761 [...] the ASUO Senate has not taken to heart. Editor-in-Chief of the ODE Laura Powers has already filed a spat of grievances, against the Senate for violating Oregon Public Meeting Law, and today she added another to the [...] […] the ASUO Senate has not taken to heart. Editor-in-Chief of the ODE Laura Powers has already filed a spat of grievances, against the Senate for violating Oregon Public Meeting Law, and today she added another to the […]

]]> By: Chris Holman http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2008/05/14/shocker-senators-violate-public-meetings-law/#comment-99732 Chris Holman Thu, 15 May 2008 20:49:50 +0000 http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2008/05/14/shocker-senators-violate-public-meetings-law/#comment-99732 First come, first-served seems like a bad policy. Surprising how they managed to neglect their future need (15K). The PFC seems to have a decent accountant (or had)... Timothy: I have chuckled in the past when ASUO types get adamant about representing all students, etc. I mean, ok yeah, but really...how many votes are cast? Do they even get 1/4 of the student population to vote? I know that this is the way elections work (not everyone votes) but the whole mandate ideology seems to be strange to me. It would be fun to try and get that alternative govt. going...hehehe First come, first-served seems like a bad policy.

Surprising how they managed to neglect their future need (15K). The PFC seems to have a decent accountant (or had)…

Timothy: I have chuckled in the past when ASUO types get adamant about representing all students, etc. I mean, ok yeah, but really…how many votes are cast? Do they even get 1/4 of the student population to vote? I know that this is the way elections work (not everyone votes) but the whole mandate ideology seems to be strange to me.

It would be fun to try and get that alternative govt. going…hehehe

]]> By: Ford http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2008/05/14/shocker-senators-violate-public-meetings-law/#comment-99729 Ford Thu, 15 May 2008 17:33:32 +0000 http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2008/05/14/shocker-senators-violate-public-meetings-law/#comment-99729 They blew through three quarters of a million dollars last night in 5 hours - and were surprised when they ran out of money, because (gah gah gah) there were still more things to spend it on!! It was in true senate form: the majority of the senators weren't even aware that they shouldn't spend the account down to zero, but needed $15K through the end of the school year. And the "Overrealized Subcommittee" is the most worthless thing ever: their decision mechanism for the money was "first come, first served!" What are we paying these people for? They blew through three quarters of a million dollars last night in 5 hours - and were surprised when they ran out of money, because (gah gah gah) there were still more things to spend it on!! It was in true senate form: the majority of the senators weren’t even aware that they shouldn’t spend the account down to zero, but needed $15K through the end of the school year.

And the “Overrealized Subcommittee” is the most worthless thing ever: their decision mechanism for the money was “first come, first served!” What are we paying these people for?

]]> By: Gsim http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2008/05/14/shocker-senators-violate-public-meetings-law/#comment-99716 Gsim Thu, 15 May 2008 06:44:05 +0000 http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2008/05/14/shocker-senators-violate-public-meetings-law/#comment-99716 A bloodless coup? That'd be all fine and dandy, but violent revolution seems more exciting. A bloodless coup? That’d be all fine and dandy, but violent revolution seems more exciting.

]]> By: Timothy http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2008/05/14/shocker-senators-violate-public-meetings-law/#comment-99711 Timothy Thu, 15 May 2008 01:10:52 +0000 http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2008/05/14/shocker-senators-violate-public-meetings-law/#comment-99711 Technically, if you can secure a higher proportion of student votes in an election than the ASUO votes, you can institute a different student government. HATE from 2001 outlined this plan. Technically, if you can secure a higher proportion of student votes in an election than the ASUO votes, you can institute a different student government. HATE from 2001 outlined this plan.

]]> By: Chris Holman http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2008/05/14/shocker-senators-violate-public-meetings-law/#comment-99709 Chris Holman Wed, 14 May 2008 22:10:46 +0000 http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2008/05/14/shocker-senators-violate-public-meetings-law/#comment-99709 Does more get done, more effectively, when Robert's Rules of Boredom are in place? I don't mind the 24hr. rule, taking minutes being required, etc. However, it seems like a lot of the time 'the rules' just make the process/progress a bit anemic. Can't someone else make the rules? Does more get done, more effectively, when Robert’s Rules of Boredom are in place?

I don’t mind the 24hr. rule, taking minutes being required, etc. However, it seems like a lot of the time ‘the rules’ just make the process/progress a bit anemic.

Can’t someone else make the rules?

]]> By: Niedermeyer http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2008/05/14/shocker-senators-violate-public-meetings-law/#comment-99707 Niedermeyer Wed, 14 May 2008 21:02:01 +0000 http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2008/05/14/shocker-senators-violate-public-meetings-law/#comment-99707 I'm willing to bet money that last years entire "let's give away a cool million with no rules at all" overrealized fiasco violated OPM Law and probably Oregon Administrative Rules as well. Thanks to Laura for calling this out. Overrealized funds are illegally appropriated and illegally spent. Period. If someone doesn't take steps to return this money to students, I'd say the chances of lawsuits and/or intervention from Salem are pretty good. This is probably issue number one for the ASUO. I’m willing to bet money that last years entire “let’s give away a cool million with no rules at all” overrealized fiasco violated OPM Law and probably Oregon Administrative Rules as well. Thanks to Laura for calling this out.

Overrealized funds are illegally appropriated and illegally spent. Period. If someone doesn’t take steps to return this money to students, I’d say the chances of lawsuits and/or intervention from Salem are pretty good.

This is probably issue number one for the ASUO.

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