Comments on: Eugene fines local bar for shrubbery, sense-making

By: Gilbert Nash

Gilbert Nash — Sun, 11 May 2008 19:50:48 +0000

Unless “wall” was defined as shrubbery in the law mentioned, the local government does not have “a leg to stand on.”

By: orwellduk

orwellduk — Fri, 09 May 2008 20:17:53 +0000

Ignore govt /Frohn corruption……………govt run life…………sudsy go to jail ….. new no fun allowed law …….the end .(oh yeah I forgot put some fucking journalism award in there somewhere)

By: Betz

Betz — Fri, 09 May 2008 18:52:19 +0000

We do, but I haven’t met too many in Eugene (except for ‘brother’ Jeb (Jed?) when he gave me the birds and bees talk via megaphone). These aren’t crazy christian republicans, though….more than likely, the issue was brought on by an over-zealous misinterpretation of the law by a non-smoker who wishes to make the life of all other smokers and smoke-friendly affiliates pay for … and thats where I get lost, because really: when’s the last time a line of vegetation really prevented a wall of smoke/gas from seeping through? And really, no one calls a row of bushes a ‘wall’ …. even a hedge, which is more wall-like, is never referred to as a wall. Thats why we have the word ‘hedge’!

Bah I’m rambling *grumble, grumble*…

By: Fredric L. Rice

Fredric L. Rice — Thu, 08 May 2008 23:25:01 +0000

Outrageous and insane. You guys have insane Christian Republicans in your country, it sounds like.

By: CJ Ciaramella

CJ Ciaramella — Thu, 08 May 2008 20:31:11 +0000

Yeah, the Horsehead is appealing. It’s going back to the City Council and maybe the Lane County Circuit Court.

By: Timothy

Timothy — Thu, 08 May 2008 20:23:47 +0000

Marx was wrong, ALL CAPS, not religion, are the opiate of the masses.

By: Betz

Betz — Thu, 08 May 2008 20:22:23 +0000

“I DON’T NEED A LOGICAL REASON FOR ANYTHING I DO…
IF I DO IT ..IT’S NONE OF YOU DAMN BUSINESS…”

I think I want to make this my new life motto, except my motto will discover the Caps Lock key.

Has the Horsehead appealed this levy?

By: R

Thu, 08 May 2008 19:47:46 +0000

Our opinions on whether smoking is a good or bad idea, a health hazard, and so forth shouldn’t ever play a part in the decision of allowing someone else to make their own decisions.

I’m a non-smoker, who thinks 2nd hand smoke is foul, and I support the smoking patio 100%. I used to sit out there often with my friends while we shared a pitcher and they would chain smoke. If it bothered me, I had a choice to leave. I could go inside and play some pool, check out tunes on the new jukebox, play darts. I wasn’t out of options.

It’s a g**damned bar. What next? A law against one night stands after leaving a bar drunk?

By: PATRICK

PATRICK — Thu, 08 May 2008 19:34:02 +0000

HEY JEREMY…GO AND FUCK YOURSELF !!!!!

NOTHING WORSE THAN A REFORMED, JUDGEMENTAL ASSHOLE TO
SPEW THIER CRAP AT OTHERS…

I DON’T NEED A LOGICAL REASON FOR ANYTHING I DO…

IF I DO IT ..IT’S NONE OF YOU DAMN BUSINESS…

By: Jerry

Jerry — Thu, 08 May 2008 19:08:34 +0000

Just proves Oregon SUCKS.

By: Chris Holman

Chris Holman — Thu, 08 May 2008 18:19:58 +0000

Let’s not forget that the Horsehead is one of the few SUCCESSFUL downtown establishments. In a time when Eugene is trying to develop its downtown area, it is surprising that they would levy 12K fines for replacing a fence with greenery. Are they trying to chip away at local businesses in the downtown area?

By: Coyo7e

Coyo7e — Thu, 08 May 2008 17:52:07 +0000

I live in Eugene, and I think that the hedge wall that the Horsehead put up was both effective and attractive, and improved the area it is located. For a 25 foot wall of evergreen shrubs and planters, a $12k fine is absurd!

By: Vincent

Vincent — Thu, 08 May 2008 17:33:52 +0000

I just wonder how shocked people who’re here visiting for the Olympic trials will be when they get yelled at for breaking Eugene’s draconian smoking laws.

By: Bob Pepper

Bob Pepper — Thu, 08 May 2008 16:26:20 +0000

This problem is not about smoking. This problem is about overzealous liberals who, one-by-one, usurp our freedoms. These liberal bureaucrats know what’s better for you than you do. This is the type of “creeping liberalism” that poses a far greater threat to America than does any Islamic terrorist. Need I remind the electorate in Eugene how these thugs got into office. You got what you voted for, Stupid.

By: edward

edward — Thu, 08 May 2008 16:03:18 +0000

Also I don’t think I will visit EUGENE OREGON again and give them the satisfaction of getting my tourism money,maybe I’ll try CUBA!!

By: edward

edward — Thu, 08 May 2008 16:01:09 +0000

I have been to Eugene,I live in Kentucky.I think its a shame that as adults we can’t smoke as and when we please. We might as well live in a monarchy because that’s how we are treated. FREE that’s what we call our country? We all better look again!! Before long we will all be slaves to our government,So I suggest we light up whereever we want especially in those places we are’nt allowed!!

By: zach

zach — Thu, 08 May 2008 15:57:26 +0000

I’m not sure what the laws are in Oregon but in Ohio we have the same stupid smoking laws. Its a 1500 dollar fine if you get caught smoking cigs inside. Its only a 300 dollar fine if you get caught smoking weed. Moral of the story. I guess Ohio wants you to smoke weed more than cigs. Blaze up.

By: Fred Mertz

Fred Mertz — Thu, 08 May 2008 14:10:47 +0000

Lived there. Filled w/Eco-Nazis + ilk.

By: Clay Dowling

Clay Dowling — Thu, 08 May 2008 13:22:49 +0000

If that’s a wall then I’ve got a walled compound in my back yard. Or box hedges, take your pick.

By: Sakaki

Sakaki — Thu, 08 May 2008 10:10:18 +0000

People like Jeremy are the reason why school shootings, failing grades, and political correctness happen in our world.