I don’t know “river.” I say this not because it is really anybody’s business, but perhaps to save river from the invective dc heaps on me. I don’t mind, I’m kinda used to it, but river might not be as insensitive and calloused, with such a well-developed sense of humor.

Should we get up a lottery on how many discussions dc will pull the plug on? When the “last post” will be? When the horse will be buried?

I am just home now and v.tired, so I will simply cut and paste my hurried, pre-work/ pre-school comment from this morning, here, so that it will at least be included in your PF archive. Feel free to put it on the thread it was supposed to go on~ I chose the Holy Cow cuzza the title, and cuz I’ve known Kathee and Anton forever.

Finally, In response to this:

Ossie says: >>dc: It has been nice conversing with you and your group of crazies over the past months, but I think it is time to move on.<<

I have never written to you, or conversed with you. And the first time I ever read/posted here was MARCH 20th, mainly because Daniel Pope chimed in. [drink?]

Here’s my this morning’s blocked post, less the John Mearsheimer quote. Would like to know if you’d prefer I don’t come to this blog anymore..

dc Says:
April 30th, 2008 at 7:28 am

dc: It has been nice conversing with you and your group of crazies over the past months, but I think it is time to move on. I don’t see our relationship going anywhere at this point and think it is best we go separate ways. I will always cherish the time we had together and I wish you the best in your future endeavors.

Always with love,

The Oregon Commentator
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Last post:
Alright. Happy witch-hunting.

CJ, The portion of Valdas lecture that you have posted, is from a Forum which he delivered AFTER the Hate Force had been lashing out against him and the PF. We had been under attack for many weeks~

This is what I described earlier as Valdas responding to the Hate Force’s [covert and vicious] attacks, by “flexing his Free Speech muscle”. His first 7 lectures (spread out over as many months,) were delivered diplomatically. Only the final 2 were born within the framework of censorship and hate created by the CALC umbrella group.

Outta here.

PS
ALI: Professor Mearsheimer, you and several academics recently convened in Chicago, Rockafeller Chapel, and you said academia is the only space where Israel is “treated as a normal country, where past and present actions are critically assessed,” and the place where public opinion on the matter is most accurately reflected…[snip]

His presentations did NOT warrant the viciousness with which the lobby purports was necessary to “protect the community”/ there was no “garbage” there. I view your statement as a product of the bally-hooing; a repercussion of their PR campaign, it’s blowback, essentially (sorry “Jan”), all of it is..

Yes, his post on that offensive article is offensive.
But I think you folks are all saying he is wrong to express his thoughts~
and that, to me, is more offensive.
~
PS THIS Friday 4/25 @ 4:00 pm, after an open floor for Current Event discussion, the Pacifica Forum /attendees will be invited to participate in a workshop toward drafting a response to President Frohnmayer’s letter to colleagues, as we listen to a recording of his (September 11, 2007) lecture on “Tolerance”.

All are welcome.

HREF=”http://ifamericansknew.org/”>Alison Weir

As for the menorah (Dec. 2006), I considered it as an artistic response to the solid 2 months of Anti-PF slander spewed forth, by core members of the Hate Force, in the R-G… back to back “testimonials” in the mailbag, replete with accusations designed to convince the community that PF was doing “something wrong”, with little care for THE FACTS. [Oct-Dec. 06]

Never did the Hate Force voice their concerns to PF.

Early Dec. brought the “CALC signature ad”/ along with MWs’ dire warning/plea for money, that “the Forum provides the intellectual fuel for Hate Crimes, such as the recent spate of anti-semitic grafitti in South Eugene..” [paraphrasing there.]

It garnered 500+ signatures, untold $$$, and ran in the A-section of the R-G…

Need it be said that of the hundreds of funders-signers had not themselves, attended the Forum? Only a handful of people that I know of (most those that had visited the Forum) opted out/recognized what was happening…

The Menorah welded atop the army helmet, was a few days later, when we were asked at the last minute to prepare something w/RE to the topic of the signature ad. Fire with fire I guess you could say.

Too tired to write.

Dude, for serious? “American Jews are to blame for the occupation of parts of Syria and Jordan by Israel!” If that isn’t anti-semitism I’m not quite sure what would qualify. Don’t you have a book burning rally to get to or something?

I’ll try to fix it later. Plus I want to tell you about the menorah

For whom? I could create a flow chart, anybody dare me./?

LINKS FIXED BY THE MANAGEMENT, WHO DARES YOU TO COME UP WITH A FLOW CHART AS COMPELLING AS THE MANAGEMENT IS CAPABLE OF USING VISIO!

Thanks for the honesty & upright-ness in your post, here.

I never said you’d suppressed the truth, only that you’d perpetuated the (the carefully crafted) caricature, initially proffered by those who’d prefer PF did not exist, for reasons less obvious than you’d assume. Most of the profferers have not attended our Forums, either.

Hillel (via Applebaum, mainly,) has been dissing the Forum since 2003, stemming from Orval’s showing of 2 videos, which, I’m told, documented aspects of Israel’s illegal Occupation of Palestine.

But that’s what Hillel does (aside from hosting govt.. SHILLS like Dennis Ross (Scooter Libby cohort) on Campus. They’re a pressure group. Perception management. Just one prong in a myriad of the gd pitchforks used to serve up the lobby’s agenda (agendi?). Smack your lips, tomorrow’s another day…

Have more to say~ Just home. Wednesday’s are always long..

Well, the short answer is that Valdas and crew come to my campus and spew anti-Semitic garbage. But I’m guessing you want the long answer. Well, here it is: the true story of how a naive college reporter was manipulated by shadowy forces to bring down a peaceful discussion forum and suppress The Truth.

It all started back in October, I believe. I was walking around campus, and I saw a poster for the Mark Weber lecture. Being the astute journalist that I am, I jotted down the information and wrote this blog post.

Unfortunately, I was out of town for Weber’s lecture, but my interest was piqued. I decided to do an investigative piece on the forum, which came out in the Holiday Issue of the Commentator (pg. 8). I interviewed Etter, dug up some great stuff about Jimmy Marr bringing a desecrated menorah to a meeting, etc.

The forum fell off my radar for a little bit, until I saw another delightful poster titled “Martin Luther King: Communist?” Once again, being the astute journalist that I am, I jotted down the information and made sure to attend the meeting.

My blog post about the MLK lecture caught the attention of the Eugene Weekly, who sent their own reporter to find out what was going on. (She had also previously covered the forum). The reporter got a hold of Anelauskas’ letter to Bloom and wrote part of it into her article.

This in turn got the attention of Oregon Hillel, who urged Frohnmayer to denounce Anelauskas and the forum. Frohnmayer did so, and the Register-Guard covered it. The reporter for the R-G tracked some of the story back to this blog, and the whole clusterfuck came full circle.

There you have it, DC. That’s your grand conspiracy - the coincidental meeting of an alkie student journalist and a couple of posters.

I’ve linked to the guy’s collected works twice now, including once in this thread. What exactly must one do, DC, in order to be qualified to form an opinion about Valdas Anelauskas and his collection of interesting notions? Move to Oregon and hang out at the Pacifica Forum while he burbles about ZOG or whatever? Follow him around with a documentary crew for six months? Move into his basement and start folding a tinfoil hat of one’s own?

(By the way, I find it tremendously amusing that the relatively simple proposition “Anelauskas be craaaazy!” apparently requires so much to back it up, whereas “Zionist conspiracy rules the world!” is supposed to be self-evident to all but the benighted sheeple.)

I can see it now, “Zionist overlords undermine comment sections of weblogs on the World Wide Web.”

This is like the sub-atom-ny [sic] of my sourcing, I was using real time, a sampling of stories from that particular hour.

What is the source from which you ’speak?

CJ said ;
The fact that I’m calling Anelauskas a racist should tell you something.

Yeah. It does. It tells me that you’re OK with casting stones at someone, based on a cursory glance, at what he’s about. You attended ZERO of his Forum lectures, you probably have never spoken with him~ yet you’ve been on him [sic], for what, 5 months now? (What first prompted you to write about Valdas, or the Pacifica Forum, anyway?) …Then, when he~IN DEFENSE of countless slaughtered people, delivers a ‘politically’ -”incorrect” electronic comment (at a mind- bogglingly-ignorant, PRINTED, student columnist’s pro-neoCON FABLE piece), YOU chose, to let your site and talents, be USED, by the kingpins/core-perps of the smear Pacifica Forum ‘game’.

Oh, and ..I think “Racialist” may be the more accurate term. Just ask some of his friends.

Sho said;
>>Yeah, after that first paragraph, my mind shut off.<<

It sho-ed.

Guess the little chicken feet are not allowed tonight?