Comments on: OSA structure under review http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2008/02/15/osa-structure-under-review/ Free Minds, Free Markets, Free Booze Mon, 08 Sep 2008 07:46:10 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.3.3 By: Vincent. http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2008/02/15/osa-structure-under-review/#comment-97633 Vincent. Sat, 23 Feb 2008 20:14:48 +0000 http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2008/02/15/osa-structure-under-review/#comment-97633 I think you've got it backwards there, mate. I think you’ve got it backwards there, mate.

]]> By: Sean http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2008/02/15/osa-structure-under-review/#comment-97632 Sean Sat, 23 Feb 2008 17:59:48 +0000 http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2008/02/15/osa-structure-under-review/#comment-97632 Yes, Ted, because money is the root of all evil, and the world will be better if we suck all the money out of everyone...in the name of the people? Yes, Ted, because money is the root of all evil, and the world will be better if we suck all the money out of everyone…in the name of the people?

]]> By: Niedermeyer http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2008/02/15/osa-structure-under-review/#comment-97630 Niedermeyer Sat, 23 Feb 2008 17:18:39 +0000 http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2008/02/15/osa-structure-under-review/#comment-97630 Remember kids, leeches used to be considered a crucial tool of the healthcare profession... politics are just a few centuries behind the curve. Remember kids, leeches used to be considered a crucial tool of the healthcare profession… politics are just a few centuries behind the curve.

]]> By: K http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2008/02/15/osa-structure-under-review/#comment-97627 K Sat, 23 Feb 2008 10:30:58 +0000 http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2008/02/15/osa-structure-under-review/#comment-97627 I find it disgusting that OSA is part of the exec budget. This is a clear conflict of interest as people like Brett impose a bias (their OSA salary) on fee paying students I find it disgusting that OSA is part of the exec budget. This is a clear conflict of interest as people like Brett impose a bias (their OSA salary) on fee paying students

]]> By: Timothy http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2008/02/15/osa-structure-under-review/#comment-97622 Timothy Sat, 23 Feb 2008 04:13:11 +0000 http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2008/02/15/osa-structure-under-review/#comment-97622 Melinda Grier is a well-known <a href="http://media.www.dailyemerald.com/media/storage/paper859/news/2008/02/15/News/State.To.Look.Into.Claims.Against.Uo.Counsel-3212989.shtml" rel="nofollow">bastion of truth</a>, after all. Also, son, you need to learn the difference between IS and SHOULD. Melinda Grier is a well-known bastion of truth, after all.

Also, son, you need to learn the difference between IS and SHOULD.

]]> By: Brett Rowlett http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2008/02/15/osa-structure-under-review/#comment-97616 Brett Rowlett Fri, 22 Feb 2008 23:28:06 +0000 http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2008/02/15/osa-structure-under-review/#comment-97616 Luckily for the others I was "whispering" the same information to the students that the university's general counsel was. What do you mean OSA is not suppose to be part of the Executive? The OSA board members for the UO are the ASUO Exec President and his/her rep. The OSA budget is part of the Exec's. The organizer works out of the Exec's office. If you'd like to get into a pissing contest, I'd be more than happy to. But let's try to get our facts correct first, shall we? Luckily for the others I was “whispering” the same information to the students that the university’s general counsel was. What do you mean OSA is not suppose to be part of the Executive? The OSA board members for the UO are the ASUO Exec President and his/her rep. The OSA budget is part of the Exec’s. The organizer works out of the Exec’s office. If you’d like to get into a pissing contest, I’d be more than happy to. But let’s try to get our facts correct first, shall we?

]]> By: Toby http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2008/02/15/osa-structure-under-review/#comment-97608 Toby Fri, 22 Feb 2008 17:31:17 +0000 http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2008/02/15/osa-structure-under-review/#comment-97608 OSA is such a waste of money, they are supposed to be objective and not really part of the Executive, but I clearly can recall numerous times when I was on Senate and had Brett Rowlett trying to whisper in my ear telling me what I should so while he was the nuetral OSA rep on campus. Luckily for him that year he had plenty of other people stupid enough to listen to him. OSA is such a waste of money, they are supposed to be objective and not really part of the Executive, but I clearly can recall numerous times when I was on Senate and had Brett Rowlett trying to whisper in my ear telling me what I should so while he was the nuetral OSA rep on campus. Luckily for him that year he had plenty of other people stupid enough to listen to him.

]]> By: Brett Rowlett http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2008/02/15/osa-structure-under-review/#comment-97548 Brett Rowlett Tue, 19 Feb 2008 16:37:05 +0000 http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2008/02/15/osa-structure-under-review/#comment-97548 Hey Sakaki. I don't work for OSA anymore. What's your grip? You're not even sure who to be pissed at, are ya? I love the OC blog! Hey Sakaki. I don’t work for OSA anymore. What’s your grip? You’re not even sure who to be pissed at, are ya? I love the OC blog!

]]> By: Timothy http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2008/02/15/osa-structure-under-review/#comment-97545 Timothy Tue, 19 Feb 2008 14:20:14 +0000 http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2008/02/15/osa-structure-under-review/#comment-97545 Sean - Mostly snarled and tried to eat each other. Sean - Mostly snarled and tried to eat each other.

]]> By: Oregon Commentator » Blog Archive » Election meeting review http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2008/02/15/osa-structure-under-review/#comment-97533 Oregon Commentator » Blog Archive » Election meeting review Tue, 19 Feb 2008 04:14:26 +0000 http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2008/02/15/osa-structure-under-review/#comment-97533 [...] President Emily McLain mentioned the Oregon Students Association during her presentation. [...] […] President Emily McLain mentioned the Oregon Students Association during her presentation. […]

]]> By: why? http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2008/02/15/osa-structure-under-review/#comment-97524 why? Mon, 18 Feb 2008 20:53:37 +0000 http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2008/02/15/osa-structure-under-review/#comment-97524 why does OSA get 100k from U of O to find out if college students want to fund higher ed? what a scam why does OSA get 100k from U of O to find out if college students want to fund higher ed? what a scam

]]> By: Sean http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2008/02/15/osa-structure-under-review/#comment-97520 Sean Mon, 18 Feb 2008 18:29:06 +0000 http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2008/02/15/osa-structure-under-review/#comment-97520 Haha...I don't know, what did the dinosaurs do? Haha…I don’t know, what did the dinosaurs do?

]]> By: Timothy http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2008/02/15/osa-structure-under-review/#comment-97519 Timothy Mon, 18 Feb 2008 18:28:28 +0000 http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2008/02/15/osa-structure-under-review/#comment-97519 The ASUO knocks on the table now? They been spending a lot of time around the forensics kids? The ASUO knocks on the table now? They been spending a lot of time around the forensics kids?

]]> By: Sean http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2008/02/15/osa-structure-under-review/#comment-97518 Sean Mon, 18 Feb 2008 16:08:03 +0000 http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2008/02/15/osa-structure-under-review/#comment-97518 *ASUO knock on table* *ASUO knock on table*

]]> By: Timothy http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2008/02/15/osa-structure-under-review/#comment-97517 Timothy Mon, 18 Feb 2008 15:25:28 +0000 http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2008/02/15/osa-structure-under-review/#comment-97517 Students should not be forced to fund lobbying efforts. Let them donate on their own if they want. Students should not be forced to fund lobbying efforts. Let them donate on their own if they want.

]]> By: Ford http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2008/02/15/osa-structure-under-review/#comment-97515 Ford Mon, 18 Feb 2008 10:11:18 +0000 http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2008/02/15/osa-structure-under-review/#comment-97515 TIm: That may be a very good case against the OSA, though I'd bet the percentage that they keep up the state funding for UO is greater than the cost of the osa to students via the i fee. But I didn't take issue with the OC's stop-funding-it-cause-it's-a-waste stance; I thought it was stupid that the OC seemed to be arguing in general against any sort of lobbying organizaiton that consolidates student (or any) voice. TIm: That may be a very good case against the OSA, though I’d bet the percentage that they keep up the state funding for UO is greater than the cost of the osa to students via the i fee. But I didn’t take issue with the OC’s stop-funding-it-cause-it’s-a-waste stance; I thought it was stupid that the OC seemed to be arguing in general against any sort of lobbying organizaiton that consolidates student (or any) voice.

]]> By: why? http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2008/02/15/osa-structure-under-review/#comment-97513 why? Mon, 18 Feb 2008 07:40:02 +0000 http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2008/02/15/osa-structure-under-review/#comment-97513 Why is OSA still around? No one in the ASUO has any balls. Where's Toby Piering when we need him??? People seem to dismiss OSA's grip of this campus, and too many other things until they get blown open in the press. Where's Parker Howell when we need him??? Why is OSA still around? No one in the ASUO has any balls. Where’s Toby Piering when we need him??? People seem to dismiss OSA’s grip of this campus, and too many other things until they get blown open in the press. Where’s Parker Howell when we need him???

]]> By: Timothy http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2008/02/15/osa-structure-under-review/#comment-97512 Timothy Mon, 18 Feb 2008 07:00:35 +0000 http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2008/02/15/osa-structure-under-review/#comment-97512 The OC as an institution proposes that off-campus organizations, especially those that don't actually accomplish anything, ought not get huge piles of money. The I-fee is, what, $600 a year, which comprises roughly 10% (these numbers are from memory so cut me some slack, it's 1am central) of the total tuition and fees paid by an in-state student per year. So riddle me this, if it's so vitally fucking important to lobby against a one or two percent tuition increase, why wouldn't OSA also want to see a large reduction in a significant fee line-item? Gee...I wonder.... Also, is their budget still buried as a line-item in the Executive? When dinosaurs roamed the Earth and I was in school that's how they kept it from going through an actual PFC process. Look, you want to reduce the cost of UO? Kill the $2MM or whatever it is for the ADFC and either persuade the Athletic Dept to donate the student tickets OR let the folks who want to go to games actually buy their own tickets. Cut out the money for OSA, OSPIRG, ASUO Executive, whatever. In fact, why not simply take the top 10 or top 20 I-fee expenses and reduce them all 50%? Hell, cut them to zero. Aside from the rec nobody will notice. The OC as an institution proposes that off-campus organizations, especially those that don’t actually accomplish anything, ought not get huge piles of money.

The I-fee is, what, $600 a year, which comprises roughly 10% (these numbers are from memory so cut me some slack, it’s 1am central) of the total tuition and fees paid by an in-state student per year. So riddle me this, if it’s so vitally fucking important to lobby against a one or two percent tuition increase, why wouldn’t OSA also want to see a large reduction in a significant fee line-item? Gee…I wonder….

Also, is their budget still buried as a line-item in the Executive? When dinosaurs roamed the Earth and I was in school that’s how they kept it from going through an actual PFC process. Look, you want to reduce the cost of UO? Kill the $2MM or whatever it is for the ADFC and either persuade the Athletic Dept to donate the student tickets OR let the folks who want to go to games actually buy their own tickets. Cut out the money for OSA, OSPIRG, ASUO Executive, whatever. In fact, why not simply take the top 10 or top 20 I-fee expenses and reduce them all 50%? Hell, cut them to zero. Aside from the rec nobody will notice.

]]> By: OSA insider http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2008/02/15/osa-structure-under-review/#comment-97508 OSA insider Mon, 18 Feb 2008 00:05:18 +0000 http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2008/02/15/osa-structure-under-review/#comment-97508 OSA helped me run for ASUO Exec; don't get rid of them OSA helped me run for ASUO Exec; don’t get rid of them

]]> By: Sakaki http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2008/02/15/osa-structure-under-review/#comment-97507 Sakaki Sun, 17 Feb 2008 23:38:02 +0000 http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2008/02/15/osa-structure-under-review/#comment-97507 My view is that the OC wants to get rid of the OSA because they are a waste of fucking money. And I frankly wouldn't mind seeing Brett Rowlett or some of the others involved tossed out on their asses, and beaten with reeds. My view is that the OC wants to get rid of the OSA because they are a waste of fucking money.

And I frankly wouldn’t mind seeing Brett Rowlett or some of the others involved tossed out on their asses, and beaten with reeds.

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