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	<title>Comments on: Emerald to Censors: &#8220;Fuck Off&#8221;</title>
	<link>http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2007/10/02/emerald-to-censors-fuck-off/</link>
	<description>Free Minds, Free Markets, Free Booze</description>
	<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2008 05:20:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Andy</title>
		<link>http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2007/10/02/emerald-to-censors-fuck-off/#comment-95884</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Oct 2007 04:55:40 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2007/10/02/emerald-to-censors-fuck-off/#comment-95884</guid>
		<description>Fuck.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fuck.</p>
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		<title>By: Looney</title>
		<link>http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2007/10/02/emerald-to-censors-fuck-off/#comment-95865</link>
		<dc:creator>Looney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Oct 2007 20:39:59 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2007/10/02/emerald-to-censors-fuck-off/#comment-95865</guid>
		<description>I suggest the following for reference:

&lt;a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RqtgfjkB6Pg" rel="nofollow"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I suggest the following for reference:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RqtgfjkB6Pg" rel="nofollow">here</a></p>
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		<title>By: Jake</title>
		<link>http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2007/10/02/emerald-to-censors-fuck-off/#comment-95863</link>
		<dc:creator>Jake</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Oct 2007 17:49:48 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2007/10/02/emerald-to-censors-fuck-off/#comment-95863</guid>
		<description>I think it was Oliver Wendell Holmes who said, "The most stringent protection of free speech would not protect a man from acting a jackass in a theater and causing a panic."</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it was Oliver Wendell Holmes who said, &#8220;The most stringent protection of free speech would not protect a man from acting a jackass in a theater and causing a panic.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Ossie</title>
		<link>http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2007/10/02/emerald-to-censors-fuck-off/#comment-95862</link>
		<dc:creator>Ossie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Oct 2007 17:04:11 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2007/10/02/emerald-to-censors-fuck-off/#comment-95862</guid>
		<description>as assinine as the editorial may be, the banter of comments below the online poster takes the cake. At least there is one level-headed, upright citizen that knows how to focus on the fine print:



&lt;blockquote&gt;JODY-
"Fuck that disrespectful puke! All you liberal fucks who think this great nation need to go live in your favorite dictator run wasteland. I bet anyone who talks like this in Cuba, Venezuela, N Korea, Iran, China, is dead in less than a week. You sick fuckers don't know how good you have it. Soon enough though you will turn this country into a communist hell hole and when that happens, you will be dead anyways. Becareful what you wish for!"&lt;/blockquote&gt;

The problem of these "defending the First Amendment" debacles is that everyone then thinks it is alright to talk like a jackass. Sure, it's not illegal to act or talk like a jackass, but that doesn't change the fact that you are a huge jackass.  

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>as assinine as the editorial may be, the banter of comments below the online poster takes the cake. At least there is one level-headed, upright citizen that knows how to focus on the fine print:</p>
<blockquote><p>JODY-<br />
&#8220;Fuck that disrespectful puke! All you liberal fucks who think this great nation need to go live in your favorite dictator run wasteland. I bet anyone who talks like this in Cuba, Venezuela, N Korea, Iran, China, is dead in less than a week. You sick fuckers don&#8217;t know how good you have it. Soon enough though you will turn this country into a communist hell hole and when that happens, you will be dead anyways. Becareful what you wish for!&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>The problem of these &#8220;defending the First Amendment&#8221; debacles is that everyone then thinks it is alright to talk like a jackass. Sure, it&#8217;s not illegal to act or talk like a jackass, but that doesn&#8217;t change the fact that you are a huge jackass.</p>
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		<title>By: T</title>
		<link>http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2007/10/02/emerald-to-censors-fuck-off/#comment-95860</link>
		<dc:creator>T</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Oct 2007 15:34:20 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2007/10/02/emerald-to-censors-fuck-off/#comment-95860</guid>
		<description>Per the PDF: Oh my God. I can't believe the ODE is still attaching one word tags to every fucking story: "activism" &#38; "tickets" etc ... I remember last year one of the tags was "rape" or "abuse" or something like that -- as if there's a "rape" beat at the University. Jesus, I thought they recognized how stupid those tags are.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Per the PDF: Oh my God. I can&#8217;t believe the ODE is still attaching one word tags to every fucking story: &#8220;activism&#8221; &amp; &#8220;tickets&#8221; etc &#8230; I remember last year one of the tags was &#8220;rape&#8221; or &#8220;abuse&#8221; or something like that &#8212; as if there&#8217;s a &#8220;rape&#8221; beat at the University. Jesus, I thought they recognized how stupid those tags are.</p>
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		<title>By: Timothy</title>
		<link>http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2007/10/02/emerald-to-censors-fuck-off/#comment-95858</link>
		<dc:creator>Timothy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Oct 2007 15:26:18 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2007/10/02/emerald-to-censors-fuck-off/#comment-95858</guid>
		<description>Dude, we ran the F-bomb on the back cover, TWICE, while I was at the OC.  Take that ODE, WE'VE GOT YOUR EDGEY RIGHT HERE!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dude, we ran the F-bomb on the back cover, TWICE, while I was at the OC.  Take that ODE, WE&#8217;VE GOT YOUR EDGEY RIGHT HERE!</p>
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		<title>By: T</title>
		<link>http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2007/10/02/emerald-to-censors-fuck-off/#comment-95857</link>
		<dc:creator>T</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Oct 2007 15:20:08 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2007/10/02/emerald-to-censors-fuck-off/#comment-95857</guid>
		<description>Some quick points: 1) The Colorado State University "editorial" was stupid, pointless and nonsensical. (What, exactly, did Bush have to do with the aforementioned tasering? Wasn't Kerry the speaker at the event?)
2) The ODE editorial is lame and sort of pointless itself. But the editorial board there loves editorials about the frightening state of student journalism, because those pieces increase the paper's chances of showing up on University Wire.

The arguments from the editorial are pretty dumb:

"Because the readership of college newspapers is college students, nearly all of whom are adults, they should be allowed to print profanity without fear of retribution."

Yes, I agree with this, but try doing something comparable at a real newspaper. People will get pissed off and you will get fired.

"Whatever the board decides, it will send a powerful message about how much freedom students at Colorado State can expect, and exactly what and who the First Amendment actually protects."

First, who gives a shit about Colorado State? Second: No. No it won't. The editorial board should crack open their communication law books for a refresher. And although I don't disagree that the editor should keep his job (this is, after all, student journalism), I really don't think this case is tantamount to Cohen v. California.

And then there's this: "Free speech cannot be curbed unless it endangers the immediate safety of the populace." Boy, seeing as how we have a presidential election heating up, I can't wait until the ODE and its brilliant legal minds tackle campaign finance reform.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some quick points: 1) The Colorado State University &#8220;editorial&#8221; was stupid, pointless and nonsensical. (What, exactly, did Bush have to do with the aforementioned tasering? Wasn&#8217;t Kerry the speaker at the event?)<br />
2) The ODE editorial is lame and sort of pointless itself. But the editorial board there loves editorials about the frightening state of student journalism, because those pieces increase the paper&#8217;s chances of showing up on University Wire.</p>
<p>The arguments from the editorial are pretty dumb:</p>
<p>&#8220;Because the readership of college newspapers is college students, nearly all of whom are adults, they should be allowed to print profanity without fear of retribution.&#8221;</p>
<p>Yes, I agree with this, but try doing something comparable at a real newspaper. People will get pissed off and you will get fired.</p>
<p>&#8220;Whatever the board decides, it will send a powerful message about how much freedom students at Colorado State can expect, and exactly what and who the First Amendment actually protects.&#8221;</p>
<p>First, who gives a shit about Colorado State? Second: No. No it won&#8217;t. The editorial board should crack open their communication law books for a refresher. And although I don&#8217;t disagree that the editor should keep his job (this is, after all, student journalism), I really don&#8217;t think this case is tantamount to Cohen v. California.</p>
<p>And then there&#8217;s this: &#8220;Free speech cannot be curbed unless it endangers the immediate safety of the populace.&#8221; Boy, seeing as how we have a presidential election heating up, I can&#8217;t wait until the ODE and its brilliant legal minds tackle campaign finance reform.</p>
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		<title>By: Ossie</title>
		<link>http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2007/10/02/emerald-to-censors-fuck-off/#comment-95853</link>
		<dc:creator>Ossie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Oct 2007 07:24:14 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2007/10/02/emerald-to-censors-fuck-off/#comment-95853</guid>
		<description>In a follow-up, The fucking Ol Dirty meant to have this fuck of an editorial published on fucking Monday, but due to a fucking printer "error" its fucking editorial page was replaced with page two of Monday's Oregon State fucking Barometer.

Here's the &lt;a href="http://media.collegepublisher.com/media/paper859/documents/y11iktm5.pdf" rel="nofollow"&gt;fucking PDF&lt;/a&gt;, if you want to see what fuck looks like in 150 font. For the record, we could print Fuck in 400 font. We just might do it. We're crazy like that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In a follow-up, The fucking Ol Dirty meant to have this fuck of an editorial published on fucking Monday, but due to a fucking printer &#8220;error&#8221; its fucking editorial page was replaced with page two of Monday&#8217;s Oregon State fucking Barometer.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s the <a href="http://media.collegepublisher.com/media/paper859/documents/y11iktm5.pdf" rel="nofollow">fucking PDF</a>, if you want to see what fuck looks like in 150 font. For the record, we could print Fuck in 400 font. We just might do it. We&#8217;re crazy like that.</p>
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		<title>By: Meghann</title>
		<link>http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2007/10/02/emerald-to-censors-fuck-off/#comment-95850</link>
		<dc:creator>Meghann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Oct 2007 06:06:24 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2007/10/02/emerald-to-censors-fuck-off/#comment-95850</guid>
		<description>"I have to disagree and say that the First Amendment does protect students from college administrators who wish to limit the language of on-campus publications."

Hmmmm.....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I have to disagree and say that the First Amendment does protect students from college administrators who wish to limit the language of on-campus publications.&#8221;</p>
<p>Hmmmm&#8230;..</p>
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