Comments on: Teacher sues for right to pack heat http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2007/09/19/teacher-sues-for-right-to-pack-heat/ Free Minds, Free Markets, Free Booze Mon, 08 Sep 2008 14:01:47 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.3.3 By: Toby http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2007/09/19/teacher-sues-for-right-to-pack-heat/#comment-95698 Toby Fri, 21 Sep 2007 21:01:53 +0000 http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2007/09/19/teacher-sues-for-right-to-pack-heat/#comment-95698 This is great. Something needs to happen as OUS and school board policy is currently at odds over this lissue. I believe however as in the previous case, this woman will not have standing since she hasn't been arrested or harmed in somehow from her school directors as a result of carrying a handgun. First she needs to take it to school, then be punished in some way as a result for her to have standing and to have the case moved forward and decided. This is great. Something needs to happen as OUS and school board policy is currently at odds over this lissue. I believe however as in the previous case, this woman will not have standing since she hasn’t been arrested or harmed in somehow from her school directors as a result of carrying a handgun. First she needs to take it to school, then be punished in some way as a result for her to have standing and to have the case moved forward and decided.

]]> By: Danimal http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2007/09/19/teacher-sues-for-right-to-pack-heat/#comment-95683 Danimal Thu, 20 Sep 2007 18:34:49 +0000 http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2007/09/19/teacher-sues-for-right-to-pack-heat/#comment-95683 The "suffer" requirement would have nothing to do with her abusive ex-husband. She would have to suffer an actual injury to her civil rights, not to her person, by the policy, not by the ex-husband. Stubbs' case was thrown out because he had never actually attempted to carry a gun on campus and had the policy enforced against him, so there was no injury to his rights. I think this was because he brought an "as-applied" challenge and it hadn't been applied. The “suffer” requirement would have nothing to do with her abusive ex-husband. She would have to suffer an actual injury to her civil rights, not to her person, by the policy, not by the ex-husband. Stubbs’ case was thrown out because he had never actually attempted to carry a gun on campus and had the policy enforced against him, so there was no injury to his rights. I think this was because he brought an “as-applied” challenge and it hadn’t been applied.

]]> By: Timothy http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2007/09/19/teacher-sues-for-right-to-pack-heat/#comment-95682 Timothy Thu, 20 Sep 2007 14:08:25 +0000 http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2007/09/19/teacher-sues-for-right-to-pack-heat/#comment-95682 Oh Medford, is there anything you can't do? Oh Medford, is there anything you can’t do?

]]> By: Ossie http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2007/09/19/teacher-sues-for-right-to-pack-heat/#comment-95681 Ossie Thu, 20 Sep 2007 07:13:26 +0000 http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2007/09/19/teacher-sues-for-right-to-pack-heat/#comment-95681 This is looking to be some great press for the City of Medford, not to mention the Oregon Firearms Federation, who is paying all the legal bills in this case. This is looking to be some great press for the City of Medford, not to mention the Oregon Firearms Federation, who is paying all the legal bills in this case.

]]> By: CJ Ciaramella http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2007/09/19/teacher-sues-for-right-to-pack-heat/#comment-95680 CJ Ciaramella Thu, 20 Sep 2007 00:14:29 +0000 http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2007/09/19/teacher-sues-for-right-to-pack-heat/#comment-95680 See, I think this woman has a better case because she has (or will) suffer if she's not allowed to carry a firearm (i.e. her crazy ex-husband kills her). Not to mention the restraining order against the ex-husband just expired. Well, not that restraining orders are worth the paper they're printed on anyways. I don't know, but it will at least be an interesting test of Second Amendment rights, and it has the potential to go pretty high in the courts if she wants to push it. See, I think this woman has a better case because she has (or will) suffer if she’s not allowed to carry a firearm (i.e. her crazy ex-husband kills her). Not to mention the restraining order against the ex-husband just expired. Well, not that restraining orders are worth the paper they’re printed on anyways. I don’t know, but it will at least be an interesting test of Second Amendment rights, and it has the potential to go pretty high in the courts if she wants to push it.

]]> By: T http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2007/09/19/teacher-sues-for-right-to-pack-heat/#comment-95679 T Wed, 19 Sep 2007 21:02:55 +0000 http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2007/09/19/teacher-sues-for-right-to-pack-heat/#comment-95679 Many moons ago (by which a mean a few years) there was a UO GTF by the name of Brian Stubbs. He filed a similar lawsuit. He had a conceal-carry permit and felt that the OUS policy denying that privilege on campus violated the state Constitution. I wrote a story about it back when it happened (2004?). The suit was eventually thrown out of court because -- if memory serves me correctly -- he couldn't prove that he had suffered, because the UO Gestapo never arrested him or confiscated his weapon. (There was no proof that he even brought it on campus.) He left the next year I think. Still, the way the state laws are set up, this is a pretty iffy situation. If you talk to some of the OC old timers, they'll tell you (possibly apocryphal) stories about carrying concealed guns on campus and having a gun safe in the office -- cuz you never know when, or where, the Insurgent kids will start their revolt. Many moons ago (by which a mean a few years) there was a UO GTF by the name of Brian Stubbs. He filed a similar lawsuit. He had a conceal-carry permit and felt that the OUS policy denying that privilege on campus violated the state Constitution. I wrote a story about it back when it happened (2004?). The suit was eventually thrown out of court because — if memory serves me correctly — he couldn’t prove that he had suffered, because the UO Gestapo never arrested him or confiscated his weapon. (There was no proof that he even brought it on campus.) He left the next year I think. Still, the way the state laws are set up, this is a pretty iffy situation.

If you talk to some of the OC old timers, they’ll tell you (possibly apocryphal) stories about carrying concealed guns on campus and having a gun safe in the office — cuz you never know when, or where, the Insurgent kids will start their revolt.

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