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	<title>Comments on: Surprise:  1934 now &#8220;Warmest Year on Record,&#8221; not 1998</title>
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		<title>By: Global Warming Reality</title>
		<link>http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2007/08/10/surprise-1934-now-warmest-year-on-record-not-1998/comment-page-1/#comment-104974</link>
		<dc:creator>Global Warming Reality</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Feb 2009 01:04:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] the correction made by NASA. You can read more about their mistake that never go reported here or here or here or even here in the CORRECTED climate data released by [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Christiansen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Christiansen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Aug 2007 18:19:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>NASA did not fix the problem. A Canadian scientist did. He received no support in his endevour. But they had not much choice when the mistake was documented. NASAs James Hansen did not HELP AT ALL. That is a fact.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>NASA did not fix the problem. A Canadian scientist did. He received no support in his endevour. But they had not much choice when the mistake was documented. NASAs James Hansen did not HELP AT ALL. That is a fact.</p>
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		<title>By: Christiansen</title>
		<link>http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2007/08/10/surprise-1934-now-warmest-year-on-record-not-1998/comment-page-1/#comment-95433</link>
		<dc:creator>Christiansen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Aug 2007 18:15:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If there is something you would expect from the &quot;humans cause global warming due to co2&quot; -theory it must be warming yes? But we don´t really see a pattern of dramatic warming...actually the world might not warming AT ALL. 

The fact that many scientists have bought into it is not crucial at all. MANY DO NOT. What people should do is think for themselves and look at the FACTS. There is a sheep mentality among scientists unfortunately. It is human nature.

And they should ask questions. For example. Why is Antarctica cooling?
Why is the planet Mars warming? (and other planets in our solar system), why are the glaciars in New Zeeland and Norway GROWING? And surprisingly many other places. Even some of the glaciars &quot;Dr&quot; Gore is using in his film is actually growing. Check it out yourselves..

And start to THINK how come the media does not report REAL NEWS like the fact that THOUSANDS of people die from starvation and malnutrition EVERY DAY.. they seem obsessed (at least in Europe where most people have lost touch with nature and its forces) about Global &quot;warming&quot; and not much interested in much else. I have not read anything in the European press about this switch from 1998 to 1934 for example. The media seems like a propagandamachine for a certain political movement. Insane.

I hope there are enough sensible people in the US to put this is perspective.

regards from Norway</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If there is something you would expect from the &#8220;humans cause global warming due to co2&#8243; -theory it must be warming yes? But we don´t really see a pattern of dramatic warming&#8230;actually the world might not warming AT ALL. </p>
<p>The fact that many scientists have bought into it is not crucial at all. MANY DO NOT. What people should do is think for themselves and look at the FACTS. There is a sheep mentality among scientists unfortunately. It is human nature.</p>
<p>And they should ask questions. For example. Why is Antarctica cooling?<br />
Why is the planet Mars warming? (and other planets in our solar system), why are the glaciars in New Zeeland and Norway GROWING? And surprisingly many other places. Even some of the glaciars &#8220;Dr&#8221; Gore is using in his film is actually growing. Check it out yourselves..</p>
<p>And start to THINK how come the media does not report REAL NEWS like the fact that THOUSANDS of people die from starvation and malnutrition EVERY DAY.. they seem obsessed (at least in Europe where most people have lost touch with nature and its forces) about Global &#8220;warming&#8221; and not much interested in much else. I have not read anything in the European press about this switch from 1998 to 1934 for example. The media seems like a propagandamachine for a certain political movement. Insane.</p>
<p>I hope there are enough sensible people in the US to put this is perspective.</p>
<p>regards from Norway</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Fradl</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark Fradl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Aug 2007 13:37:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Michael -

 Great point about the fact that no single scientific study stands on its own, but i think it&#039;s often not the researchers that blow things out of proportion, it&#039;s the media.  This is exactly what happened with Global Cooling in the 70s, it was a scientific theory not yet explored, and the media ran with it before any actual studies and research were done.

The irony here is that it is in fact the Global Warming skeptics who take one little factoid here or there and try to blow it out of proportion.  Those who accept the likelihood of Global Warming have thousands of studies to back them up, not one or two.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michael -</p>
<p> Great point about the fact that no single scientific study stands on its own, but i think it&#8217;s often not the researchers that blow things out of proportion, it&#8217;s the media.  This is exactly what happened with Global Cooling in the 70s, it was a scientific theory not yet explored, and the media ran with it before any actual studies and research were done.</p>
<p>The irony here is that it is in fact the Global Warming skeptics who take one little factoid here or there and try to blow it out of proportion.  Those who accept the likelihood of Global Warming have thousands of studies to back them up, not one or two.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Fradl</title>
		<link>http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2007/08/10/surprise-1934-now-warmest-year-on-record-not-1998/comment-page-1/#comment-95354</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Fradl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Aug 2007 14:35:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Michael G.,

   Great point - and of course the media doesn&#039;t help because they leap on any little factoid and blow it all out of proportion - 

a great example of this is, again, the fact that so many people, even here, keep saying that in the 70s there were all these peer reviewed scientific studies predicting global cooling - simply not true
http://www.wmconnolley.org.uk/sci/iceage/
http://www.realclimate.org/index.php?p=94

And yes, I&#039;m citing internet sources, but if these sources are wrong, if there were scads of peer reviewed studies and scientific organizations backing the theory of Global Cooling I&#039;d love to see some links and evidences.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michael G.,</p>
<p>   Great point &#8211; and of course the media doesn&#8217;t help because they leap on any little factoid and blow it all out of proportion &#8211; </p>
<p>a great example of this is, again, the fact that so many people, even here, keep saying that in the 70s there were all these peer reviewed scientific studies predicting global cooling &#8211; simply not true<br />
<a href="http://www.wmconnolley.org.uk/sci/iceage/" rel="nofollow">http://www.wmconnolley.org.uk/sci/iceage/</a><br />
<a href="http://www.realclimate.org/index.php?p=94" rel="nofollow">http://www.realclimate.org/index.php?p=94</a></p>
<p>And yes, I&#8217;m citing internet sources, but if these sources are wrong, if there were scads of peer reviewed studies and scientific organizations backing the theory of Global Cooling I&#8217;d love to see some links and evidences.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael G.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael G.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Aug 2007 07:38:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, my first post in months, and look at the attention it received.  I&#039;m happy.

My main point here is that until now, nobody checked up on the NASA study, it was simply accepted as a fact.   NASA deserves some credit for having fixed the data, but the mistake should have been caught much earlier.  As in, before the government decided to put out a bunch of press releases about it.

My criticism is that this happens all too often when climate change is the topic.    Not that it doesn&#039;t happen in other fields, but they usually don&#039;t result in quite as extreme of a reaction on any side.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, my first post in months, and look at the attention it received.  I&#8217;m happy.</p>
<p>My main point here is that until now, nobody checked up on the NASA study, it was simply accepted as a fact.   NASA deserves some credit for having fixed the data, but the mistake should have been caught much earlier.  As in, before the government decided to put out a bunch of press releases about it.</p>
<p>My criticism is that this happens all too often when climate change is the topic.    Not that it doesn&#8217;t happen in other fields, but they usually don&#8217;t result in quite as extreme of a reaction on any side.</p>
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		<title>By: Vincent.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vincent.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Aug 2007 04:58:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But wubba, your tenure isn&#039;t over yet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But wubba, your tenure isn&#8217;t over yet.</p>
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		<title>By: Wubba Wubba</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wubba Wubba</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Aug 2007 03:39:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That is correct, you are not supposed to be intelligent because you are a comedian. Comedy is 95% truth, and 5% timing. Intelligence plays no role in your job. 

Here&#039;s your jester&#039;s hat. Make me laugh!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That is correct, you are not supposed to be intelligent because you are a comedian. Comedy is 95% truth, and 5% timing. Intelligence plays no role in your job. </p>
<p>Here&#8217;s your jester&#8217;s hat. Make me laugh!</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Fradl</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark Fradl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Aug 2007 03:14:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Decimals are Arabic, if memory serves!  Coincidence?  I think not!

Oh.. sorry... I&#039;m not supposed to be intelligent or have an opinion, because I&#039;m a comedian.  

And please always remember, as my people have noted to many a schoolchild - 7 ate 9.  JUST like the Jews eat the Christian babies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Decimals are Arabic, if memory serves!  Coincidence?  I think not!</p>
<p>Oh.. sorry&#8230; I&#8217;m not supposed to be intelligent or have an opinion, because I&#8217;m a comedian.  </p>
<p>And please always remember, as my people have noted to many a schoolchild &#8211; 7 ate 9.  JUST like the Jews eat the Christian babies.</p>
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		<title>By: Vincent.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vincent.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Aug 2007 01:55:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They year 6565 is for &lt;b&gt;AL QAEDA!&lt;/b&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They year 6565 is for <b>AL QAEDA!</b></p>
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