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	<title>Comments on: Harbaugh Questions Diversity Effort, Officially Becomes Frohnmayer Nemesis</title>
	<link>http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2007/06/06/harbaugh-questions-diversity-effort-officially-becomes-frohnmayer-nemesis/</link>
	<description>Free Minds, Free Markets, Free Booze</description>
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		<title>By: Sean Jin</title>
		<link>http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2007/06/06/harbaugh-questions-diversity-effort-officially-becomes-frohnmayer-nemesis/#comment-94796</link>
		<dc:creator>Sean Jin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jun 2007 18:34:28 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2007/06/06/harbaugh-questions-diversity-effort-officially-becomes-frohnmayer-nemesis/#comment-94796</guid>
		<description>Ooooh schweet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ooooh schweet.</p>
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		<title>By: Niedermeyer</title>
		<link>http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2007/06/06/harbaugh-questions-diversity-effort-officially-becomes-frohnmayer-nemesis/#comment-94795</link>
		<dc:creator>Niedermeyer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jun 2007 18:22:47 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2007/06/06/harbaugh-questions-diversity-effort-officially-becomes-frohnmayer-nemesis/#comment-94795</guid>
		<description>Bill: Das Frohn sure seems to be beating around the bush in describing his feelings about you. Then again, at least he's shooting straighter than Morozumi... Oh, and at least you didn't get the Papa Bear O'Reilly treatment. Hang in there, and remember, if nothing else you have encouraged this student to send more bourbon-inspired emails to Johnson Hall. Give me a second to wikipedia John W. Davis first...

Sean: Fire away. You are listed as an author, so you should be able to publish.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bill: Das Frohn sure seems to be beating around the bush in describing his feelings about you. Then again, at least he&#8217;s shooting straighter than Morozumi&#8230; Oh, and at least you didn&#8217;t get the Papa Bear O&#8217;Reilly treatment. Hang in there, and remember, if nothing else you have encouraged this student to send more bourbon-inspired emails to Johnson Hall. Give me a second to wikipedia John W. Davis first&#8230;</p>
<p>Sean: Fire away. You are listed as an author, so you should be able to publish.</p>
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		<title>By: Sean</title>
		<link>http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2007/06/06/harbaugh-questions-diversity-effort-officially-becomes-frohnmayer-nemesis/#comment-94794</link>
		<dc:creator>Sean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jun 2007 17:15:21 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2007/06/06/harbaugh-questions-diversity-effort-officially-becomes-frohnmayer-nemesis/#comment-94794</guid>
		<description>Oh yeah, Ted...what does a man have to do around here to get his blog posts published these days?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh yeah, Ted&#8230;what does a man have to do around here to get his blog posts published these days?</p>
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		<title>By: Sean</title>
		<link>http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2007/06/06/harbaugh-questions-diversity-effort-officially-becomes-frohnmayer-nemesis/#comment-94793</link>
		<dc:creator>Sean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jun 2007 17:10:28 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2007/06/06/harbaugh-questions-diversity-effort-officially-becomes-frohnmayer-nemesis/#comment-94793</guid>
		<description>Wait, is that real?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wait, is that real?</p>
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		<title>By: Andy</title>
		<link>http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2007/06/06/harbaugh-questions-diversity-effort-officially-becomes-frohnmayer-nemesis/#comment-94791</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jun 2007 15:00:13 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2007/06/06/harbaugh-questions-diversity-effort-officially-becomes-frohnmayer-nemesis/#comment-94791</guid>
		<description>Yes! The first Econ prof to publicly admit they read the Commentator!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes! The first Econ prof to publicly admit they read the Commentator!</p>
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		<title>By: Bill H</title>
		<link>http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2007/06/06/harbaugh-questions-diversity-effort-officially-becomes-frohnmayer-nemesis/#comment-94788</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill H</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jun 2007 05:53:04 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2007/06/06/harbaugh-questions-diversity-effort-officially-becomes-frohnmayer-nemesis/#comment-94788</guid>
		<description>I'm just tring to do my job, making sure that the MRS = the MRT. It's true, however, that I did email President Frohnmayer late one night, after a bourbon or two, and compare him unfavorably with former Solicitor General John W. Davis. So I guess he feels justified saying the following about me:

"It's a claim," said Frohnmayer. "It's an allegation. It's a smear and it's not true."

"He has no legal basis," Frohnmayer said. "This has had a complete legal review and people can issue wild allegations all they want, but they have no authority for them. The program has been carefully considered and it is lawful and of issue."

"Harbaugh's wild allegations have been a complete waste of time and public money. He should be embarrassed," Frohnmayer said.

Frohnmayer called the allegations "foolish."

"Members of the bar that are looking at this are incredulous that (Harbaugh) would even take himself seriously," he said. "He put a public entity at a lot of expense for nothing."

Frohnmayer called Harbaugh's hypothesis "preposterous."

"It's a frivolous complaint," he said. "There's no connection whatsoever."

"The accusations were professionally very careless and I think the commission obviously saw right through them and dismissed them in the entirety in both cases," Frohnmayer said.

I'll keep you posted when he gets farther into the thesaurus.

Bill H.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m just tring to do my job, making sure that the MRS = the MRT. It&#8217;s true, however, that I did email President Frohnmayer late one night, after a bourbon or two, and compare him unfavorably with former Solicitor General John W. Davis. So I guess he feels justified saying the following about me:</p>
<p>&#8220;It&#8217;s a claim,&#8221; said Frohnmayer. &#8220;It&#8217;s an allegation. It&#8217;s a smear and it&#8217;s not true.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;He has no legal basis,&#8221; Frohnmayer said. &#8220;This has had a complete legal review and people can issue wild allegations all they want, but they have no authority for them. The program has been carefully considered and it is lawful and of issue.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;Harbaugh&#8217;s wild allegations have been a complete waste of time and public money. He should be embarrassed,&#8221; Frohnmayer said.</p>
<p>Frohnmayer called the allegations &#8220;foolish.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;Members of the bar that are looking at this are incredulous that (Harbaugh) would even take himself seriously,&#8221; he said. &#8220;He put a public entity at a lot of expense for nothing.&#8221;</p>
<p>Frohnmayer called Harbaugh&#8217;s hypothesis &#8220;preposterous.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;It&#8217;s a frivolous complaint,&#8221; he said. &#8220;There&#8217;s no connection whatsoever.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;The accusations were professionally very careless and I think the commission obviously saw right through them and dismissed them in the entirety in both cases,&#8221; Frohnmayer said.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll keep you posted when he gets farther into the thesaurus.</p>
<p>Bill H.</p>
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		<title>By: michael grey</title>
		<link>http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2007/06/06/harbaugh-questions-diversity-effort-officially-becomes-frohnmayer-nemesis/#comment-94778</link>
		<dc:creator>michael grey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jun 2007 22:56:40 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2007/06/06/harbaugh-questions-diversity-effort-officially-becomes-frohnmayer-nemesis/#comment-94778</guid>
		<description>I’m thinking it comes down to stats.

Many of the magazines and books that rank colleges have started using diversity in their cursory ranking systems – it’s quick, easy, and quantifiable – and while I think we all agree that exposure to different cultures is valuable, I personally would rather have money spent on … well … me. I’ll broaden my world-view when I’m not going into debt to do it.

So I guessing Frohnmayer’s just taking a stab at the ranking system with hastily drawn programs that sound rather dodgy…  
“Frohnmayer responded by reminding Harbaugh the funds are awarded to the faculty's department, not the individual person.”</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I’m thinking it comes down to stats.</p>
<p>Many of the magazines and books that rank colleges have started using diversity in their cursory ranking systems – it’s quick, easy, and quantifiable – and while I think we all agree that exposure to different cultures is valuable, I personally would rather have money spent on … well … me. I’ll broaden my world-view when I’m not going into debt to do it.</p>
<p>So I guessing Frohnmayer’s just taking a stab at the ranking system with hastily drawn programs that sound rather dodgy…<br />
“Frohnmayer responded by reminding Harbaugh the funds are awarded to the faculty&#8217;s department, not the individual person.”</p>
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		<title>By: Sean</title>
		<link>http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2007/06/06/harbaugh-questions-diversity-effort-officially-becomes-frohnmayer-nemesis/#comment-94774</link>
		<dc:creator>Sean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jun 2007 20:00:56 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2007/06/06/harbaugh-questions-diversity-effort-officially-becomes-frohnmayer-nemesis/#comment-94774</guid>
		<description>The argument of Morozumi and the MCC crowd is that the university needs more faculty of color to show the 'white masses' that people of color are able to achieve high positions in society.

However, the fallacy of this is that it will only insinuate the people of color are able to achieve high positions in society ONLY if given special treatment and treated as exceptions.

Personally, I'd rather be recognized for my intellect and credentials rather than my skin color.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The argument of Morozumi and the MCC crowd is that the university needs more faculty of color to show the &#8216;white masses&#8217; that people of color are able to achieve high positions in society.</p>
<p>However, the fallacy of this is that it will only insinuate the people of color are able to achieve high positions in society ONLY if given special treatment and treated as exceptions.</p>
<p>Personally, I&#8217;d rather be recognized for my intellect and credentials rather than my skin color.</p>
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		<title>By: Timothy</title>
		<link>http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2007/06/06/harbaugh-questions-diversity-effort-officially-becomes-frohnmayer-nemesis/#comment-94773</link>
		<dc:creator>Timothy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jun 2007 19:52:52 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2007/06/06/harbaugh-questions-diversity-effort-officially-becomes-frohnmayer-nemesis/#comment-94773</guid>
		<description>Having spent a lot of time in the Economics department as an undergrad, although not too much with Prof. Harbaugh, I think it's patently ridiculous to imply that Harbaugh is a racist.  Frankly, that sort of implication says a lot more about Morozumi than it does about Harbaugh.

If I had to speculate about his motivations, I'd say that he is interested in getting things right, and having a solid plan for the university that will actually help the students and faculty who fall under the "diversity" banner.  Morozumi and his ilk think that just hiring more people of a certain skin color or background will mean that students who learn from them and share those characteristics are more successful.  That's ridiculous, and they believe it because it is easy: thinking that way does not require any amount of introspection nor anything like effort or planning.  "Hire more minority instructors, then we'll get more/better minority students!" is amazingly simple, the alternative plan touted by Harbaugh and company requires much more work on the part of the University.  It's no wonder that the Administration resists it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Having spent a lot of time in the Economics department as an undergrad, although not too much with Prof. Harbaugh, I think it&#8217;s patently ridiculous to imply that Harbaugh is a racist.  Frankly, that sort of implication says a lot more about Morozumi than it does about Harbaugh.</p>
<p>If I had to speculate about his motivations, I&#8217;d say that he is interested in getting things right, and having a solid plan for the university that will actually help the students and faculty who fall under the &#8220;diversity&#8221; banner.  Morozumi and his ilk think that just hiring more people of a certain skin color or background will mean that students who learn from them and share those characteristics are more successful.  That&#8217;s ridiculous, and they believe it because it is easy: thinking that way does not require any amount of introspection nor anything like effort or planning.  &#8220;Hire more minority instructors, then we&#8217;ll get more/better minority students!&#8221; is amazingly simple, the alternative plan touted by Harbaugh and company requires much more work on the part of the University.  It&#8217;s no wonder that the Administration resists it.</p>
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		<title>By: Sean</title>
		<link>http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2007/06/06/harbaugh-questions-diversity-effort-officially-becomes-frohnmayer-nemesis/#comment-94770</link>
		<dc:creator>Sean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jun 2007 18:11:12 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2007/06/06/harbaugh-questions-diversity-effort-officially-becomes-frohnmayer-nemesis/#comment-94770</guid>
		<description>Well, Ted, can't you see the obviousness of the situation? Hiring faculty based on quality, credentials, and qualifications alone is racist. Not being a racist costs money, but money isn't the only cost. We should all be willing to take a hit when it comes to quality of education, too, if it means a more diverse and tolerant campus.

Steve Morozumi hates me, by the way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, Ted, can&#8217;t you see the obviousness of the situation? Hiring faculty based on quality, credentials, and qualifications alone is racist. Not being a racist costs money, but money isn&#8217;t the only cost. We should all be willing to take a hit when it comes to quality of education, too, if it means a more diverse and tolerant campus.</p>
<p>Steve Morozumi hates me, by the way.</p>
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