Comments on: Republicans To Ron Paul: “We Just Call Them Debates”

By: Niedermeyer

Niedermeyer — Sat, 19 May 2007 16:51:22 +0000

I think that one could easily appreciate Paul’s impact on the debate, without necessarily considering him an electable candidate. Look at Howard Dean… he was on fire (especially on the web) for much of the campaign before imploding. If you don’t look at politicians practically, you get swept up in the hype and before you know it, you have flown yourself to Iowa and are knocking on peoples doors wearing an orange hat, only to have your candidate go down in YouTube flames.

Curb your enthusiasm, I think is how the saying goes…

By: HardCorps

HardCorps — Sat, 19 May 2007 15:54:03 +0000

There were no accusations of cowardice, only allegations of tossing in a red herring - and this comment board is far from innocent!

By: Andy

Andy — Sat, 19 May 2007 15:53:45 +0000

There were no accusations of cowardice, only allegations of tossing in a red herring - and this comment board is far from innocent!

By: Danimal

Danimal — Sat, 19 May 2007 06:11:33 +0000

What’s great about zealots is that they cast suspicious aspersions on everyone else’s motives, accuse them of cowardice, and clog up innocent comment boards.

By: HardCorps

HardCorps — Sat, 19 May 2007 05:43:22 +0000

What’s great about pragmitists is that they refuse to discuss their real opinions and attempt to shift the debate to a discussion of “reality” and “feasability.”

So you can either qualify your opinion of which candidates are hopeless or not, and then we can have a discussion. I think Dr. Paul would only dare people to challenge thier pre-conceived notions about the role of government.

But, most people around here haven’t been exactly screaming about Bush or the war fwiw…

By: HardCorps

HardCorps — Sat, 19 May 2007 05:32:55 +0000

I’m not sure how much of a chance for the nomination Guiliani will have after this:

Dobson Says He Won’t Vote for Giuliani

By: Andy

Andy — Sat, 19 May 2007 05:30:25 +0000

I’m not sure how much of a chance for the nomination Guiliani will have after this:

Dobson Says He Won’t Vote for Giuliani

By: Tracy Saboe

Tracy Saboe — Sat, 19 May 2007 00:28:42 +0000

Rudy is more of a liberal then Paul. He’s pro-choice, and as anti-gun as your most extream liberal democrat. He’s for big spending. How people can consider him Republican much less conservative I don’t understand. Ron Paul is the only candidate who actually talked about some departments he’d cut. Shrinking government includes shrinking the warfare state. What’s unAmerican about that?

What’s unAmerican about following the Constitution?

TRacy

By: ChrisD

ChrisD — Sat, 19 May 2007 00:00:13 +0000

I for one am freaking terrified of liberty. That’s why I’m going to take a tip from Sen. John McCain.

Except I’ll be sure to have them cut my balls off.

By: Olly

Olly — Fri, 18 May 2007 23:43:55 +0000

“I can’t beleieve after all the whining about Bush and anti-war none of you so-called ‘men’ have the nuts to support the real conservative, Ron Paul.”

VOTE RON PAUL ‘08: WE FUCKIN’ DARE YOU

By: Danimal

Danimal — Fri, 18 May 2007 23:18:49 +0000

What kind of nuts, exactly, does it take to support a hopeless candidate?

By: NH

NH — Fri, 18 May 2007 23:14:34 +0000

Ron Paul has to date, made more money than Rudy or McCain in NH so far, in just one visit, so yes, you are right Danimal…I would assume he has more money than Kook as well.

C’mon have the nuts to support someone who isn’t controlled by corporations. When counting money, corporations don’t count.

By: NH

NH — Fri, 18 May 2007 23:12:32 +0000

I can’t beleieve after all the whining about Bush and anti-war none of you so-called ‘men’ have the nuts to support the real conservative, Ron Paul.

What are you afraid of, liberty?

Disgusting.

It’s Rudy and McCain who lost the debate polls (18% and 4%) and thus who should be thrown out of the next debate. Rudy is disgusting with his Daffy Duck lisp (if I hear the word ‘terroriTHm’ one more time….) and wants us all to have a Real ID card with biometrics. (Or did you pundit wannabes miss that?) Rudy knows less about security than my lawn boy. He is a johnny one-note of the worst kind.

And you call Ron fringe? Please do not compare him with Rudy, Kook-cinich or Gravel, none of whom we allowed on our radio show.

By: Danimal

Danimal — Fri, 18 May 2007 20:50:16 +0000

B-but, Ron Paul has twice as much money as Kucinich! Nothing can stand in his way!

By: Olly

Olly — Fri, 18 May 2007 19:33:39 +0000

“He can do it.”

No he can’t. Look, I’m a huge fan of having marginal presidential candidates floating around, and I certainly want to see Ron Paul at the next debate, but let’s not delude ourselves.

The point of the (slightly spurious) Kucinich comparison was not that neither of them have enough money, it’s that neither of them would survive five minutes of being treated like an actual contender. However, now that you mention it: it is also true that neither of them have enough money.

By: Andy

Andy — Fri, 18 May 2007 18:47:58 +0000

I don’t vote in the Republican primaries, but there are a lot of conservatives who are so libertarian as me who do. I just don’t think it’s unlikely as currently presumed.

By: Danimal

Danimal — Fri, 18 May 2007 18:15:16 +0000

Paul/Romney: Now Less Than Ever!

By: Timothy

Timothy — Fri, 18 May 2007 17:47:39 +0000

Do you vote in Republican primaries, Andy? I sure don’t, I therefore see Paul getting the nomination as unlikely. I also think Paul/Romney would be comedy gold, but pretty unlikely.

By: Andy

Andy — Fri, 18 May 2007 16:43:41 +0000

Olly, take a look at the CNN interview with him and Wolf Blitzer the other night - he was asked that question about whether he had a chance and if he didn’t win the nomination would he go third party. Just imagine if his was a ticket like Paul/Romney? It’s just getting started.

By: Andy

Andy — Fri, 18 May 2007 16:41:54 +0000

T-
Well of course no one can call themselves a libertarian if they don’t advocate for 100% open borders. Your boy Nick Gillespie mentioned the exact quip about Dr. Paul a few weeks ago also. But tell me what is more ridiculous - fighting domestic terrorism by attacking Iraq or fighting domestic terrorism by tightening border security If you believe in the country of the USA, then we have to have borders. Also, our unfunded liabilities of 60 Trillion dollars of welfare will only be exacerbated unfettered immigration. Don’t we have enough people on the dole already?

Ron Paul is labeled a libertarian because the Republicans are so far to the left that. Just because he disagrees that government should be the father of the citizens from cradle to grave, and is *shock* pro-life CONSISTENTLY - he’s automatically a radical libertarian who has no hope of being elected.

It’s also absurd to compare Dr. Paul with Kucinich because to my knowledge the latter has never won a debate, and lets take a look at fund raising for the two:

Kucinich: $344,891
Dr. Paul: $639,989

These numbers are from opensecrets.org and were from before the debates too.

He’s also getting incredible press covereage from Guliani’s remarks; he’s been on CNN and discussed on every conservative radio talk show. He can do it.