Comments on: Insurgent Reprints Magnum Opus: Stand By For More Wailing and Gnashing Of Teeth http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2007/05/12/insurgent-reprints-magnum-opus-stand-by-for-more-wailing-and-gnashing-of-teeth/ Free Minds, Free Markets, Free Booze Thu, 07 Aug 2008 23:11:57 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.3.3 By: Olly http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2007/05/12/insurgent-reprints-magnum-opus-stand-by-for-more-wailing-and-gnashing-of-teeth/#comment-94394 Olly Tue, 15 May 2007 06:08:31 +0000 http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2007/05/12/insurgent-reprints-magnum-opus-stand-by-for-more-wailing-and-gnashing-of-teeth/#comment-94394 Ok, for once and for all. everybody, it's <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_A._Donohue" rel="nofollow">Donohue</a>. <b>Not</b> "Donahue". Also, he's hilarious. Ok, for once and for all. everybody, it’s Donohue.

Not “Donahue”.

Also, he’s hilarious.

]]> By: Sean http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2007/05/12/insurgent-reprints-magnum-opus-stand-by-for-more-wailing-and-gnashing-of-teeth/#comment-94393 Sean Tue, 15 May 2007 03:29:56 +0000 http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2007/05/12/insurgent-reprints-magnum-opus-stand-by-for-more-wailing-and-gnashing-of-teeth/#comment-94393 Scratch that, Donahue's comment just made it through the censors. Scratch that, Donahue’s comment just made it through the censors.

]]> By: Sean http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2007/05/12/insurgent-reprints-magnum-opus-stand-by-for-more-wailing-and-gnashing-of-teeth/#comment-94389 Sean Tue, 15 May 2007 01:54:26 +0000 http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2007/05/12/insurgent-reprints-magnum-opus-stand-by-for-more-wailing-and-gnashing-of-teeth/#comment-94389 Bill Donohue tried to leave a comment on the ODE's website for Brother Higgins' commentary, but it apparently the ODE doesn't like fake Donohues. Bill Donohue tried to leave a comment on the ODE’s website for Brother Higgins’ commentary, but it apparently the ODE doesn’t like fake Donohues.

]]> By: Timothy http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2007/05/12/insurgent-reprints-magnum-opus-stand-by-for-more-wailing-and-gnashing-of-teeth/#comment-94386 Timothy Mon, 14 May 2007 22:11:14 +0000 http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2007/05/12/insurgent-reprints-magnum-opus-stand-by-for-more-wailing-and-gnashing-of-teeth/#comment-94386 I've summoned the dark forces of Bill Donohue, haven't I? Crap. I’ve summoned the dark forces of Bill Donohue, haven’t I? Crap.

]]> By: Niedermeyer http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2007/05/12/insurgent-reprints-magnum-opus-stand-by-for-more-wailing-and-gnashing-of-teeth/#comment-94384 Niedermeyer Mon, 14 May 2007 22:01:46 +0000 http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2007/05/12/insurgent-reprints-magnum-opus-stand-by-for-more-wailing-and-gnashing-of-teeth/#comment-94384 Now you've done it Tim... Now you’ve done it Tim…

]]> By: Danimal http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2007/05/12/insurgent-reprints-magnum-opus-stand-by-for-more-wailing-and-gnashing-of-teeth/#comment-94379 Danimal Mon, 14 May 2007 20:58:43 +0000 http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2007/05/12/insurgent-reprints-magnum-opus-stand-by-for-more-wailing-and-gnashing-of-teeth/#comment-94379 DRINK! DRINK!

]]> By: Timothy http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2007/05/12/insurgent-reprints-magnum-opus-stand-by-for-more-wailing-and-gnashing-of-teeth/#comment-94377 Timothy Mon, 14 May 2007 20:48:11 +0000 http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2007/05/12/insurgent-reprints-magnum-opus-stand-by-for-more-wailing-and-gnashing-of-teeth/#comment-94377 He must be Catholic. He must be Catholic.

]]> By: Danimal http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2007/05/12/insurgent-reprints-magnum-opus-stand-by-for-more-wailing-and-gnashing-of-teeth/#comment-94375 Danimal Mon, 14 May 2007 20:24:17 +0000 http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2007/05/12/insurgent-reprints-magnum-opus-stand-by-for-more-wailing-and-gnashing-of-teeth/#comment-94375 "<i>I have to read the issue. I do not look forward to the emotions reading this issue will bring to me, but I see it as my duty...</i>" Ooh, self-flagellation! How 13th-century. “I have to read the issue. I do not look forward to the emotions reading this issue will bring to me, but I see it as my duty…”

Ooh, self-flagellation! How 13th-century.

]]> By: Olly http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2007/05/12/insurgent-reprints-magnum-opus-stand-by-for-more-wailing-and-gnashing-of-teeth/#comment-94374 Olly Mon, 14 May 2007 20:15:22 +0000 http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2007/05/12/insurgent-reprints-magnum-opus-stand-by-for-more-wailing-and-gnashing-of-teeth/#comment-94374 "The Insurgent has made a mockery of all that I am, and all that I strive to become, and this time there is no question as to their motives." And comedy gold rains down upon us from the heavens, like manna. Seriously, I can't think of the last time the campus discourse featured a drama queen of this ludicrously entertaining magnitude. (Actually, come to think, I totally can, but let's not go there.) “The Insurgent has made a mockery of all that I am, and all that I strive to become, and this time there is no question as to their motives.”

And comedy gold rains down upon us from the heavens, like manna.

Seriously, I can’t think of the last time the campus discourse featured a drama queen of this ludicrously entertaining magnitude. (Actually, come to think, I totally can, but let’s not go there.)

]]> By: Sean http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2007/05/12/insurgent-reprints-magnum-opus-stand-by-for-more-wailing-and-gnashing-of-teeth/#comment-94371 Sean Mon, 14 May 2007 19:16:15 +0000 http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2007/05/12/insurgent-reprints-magnum-opus-stand-by-for-more-wailing-and-gnashing-of-teeth/#comment-94371 Hey man, those cartoons ain't a joke. I was emotionally distraught when I found out Lola Bunny was with Bugs Bunny. Hey man, those cartoons ain’t a joke. I was emotionally distraught when I found out Lola Bunny was with Bugs Bunny.

]]> By: Niedermeyer http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2007/05/12/insurgent-reprints-magnum-opus-stand-by-for-more-wailing-and-gnashing-of-teeth/#comment-94370 Niedermeyer Mon, 14 May 2007 19:11:35 +0000 http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2007/05/12/insurgent-reprints-magnum-opus-stand-by-for-more-wailing-and-gnashing-of-teeth/#comment-94370 Yeah, I just read the Higgins manifesto and it is a knee-slapper. My favorite bits include: <blockquote>"The term 'free thinker,' often used to describe those who oppose religion, is an offensive word that insinuates religious people don't think for themselves."</blockquote> and, <blockquote>"The Insurgent Issue is just the icing on the cake of the religious oppression I have suffered at what is supposed to be a diverse, accepting and tolerant public university."</blockquote> and who could forget, <blockquote>"The sight of these cartoons last year brought me personally a wave of sickened grief, and I don't want to see them again, but I know if I am going to continue to fight for religious tolerance on this campus, I have to read the issue. I do not look forward to the emotions reading this issue will bring to me, but I see it as my duty to inform myself, and combat this personal attack. " </blockquote> Ah, great stuff, Jethro. Refreshing. Yeah, I just read the Higgins manifesto and it is a knee-slapper. My favorite bits include:

“The term ‘free thinker,’ often used to describe those who oppose religion, is an offensive word that insinuates religious people don’t think for themselves.”

and,

“The Insurgent Issue is just the icing on the cake of the religious oppression I have suffered at what is supposed to be a diverse, accepting and tolerant public university.”

and who could forget,

“The sight of these cartoons last year brought me personally a wave of sickened grief, and I don’t want to see them again, but I know if I am going to continue to fight for religious tolerance on this campus, I have to read the issue. I do not look forward to the emotions reading this issue will bring to me, but I see it as my duty to inform myself, and combat this personal attack. ”

Ah, great stuff, Jethro. Refreshing.

]]> By: Olly http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2007/05/12/insurgent-reprints-magnum-opus-stand-by-for-more-wailing-and-gnashing-of-teeth/#comment-94364 Olly Mon, 14 May 2007 17:10:38 +0000 http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2007/05/12/insurgent-reprints-magnum-opus-stand-by-for-more-wailing-and-gnashing-of-teeth/#comment-94364 "Unfortunately, the ODE has a page and a header for it, but the piece itself is not yet online." Says you. I prefer to think the ODE has decided to start taking its editing responsibilities seriously, and the headline was all that survived. (Either that or good ol' Jethro sent the commentary in that way: "Studnt Insergent Still Insulting Chistians!!11!!1!1!! (N/T)") “Unfortunately, the ODE has a page and a header for it, but the piece itself is not yet online.”

Says you. I prefer to think the ODE has decided to start taking its editing responsibilities seriously, and the headline was all that survived.

(Either that or good ol’ Jethro sent the commentary in that way: “Studnt Insergent Still Insulting Chistians!!11!!1!1!! (N/T)”)

]]> By: Niedermeyer http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2007/05/12/insurgent-reprints-magnum-opus-stand-by-for-more-wailing-and-gnashing-of-teeth/#comment-94363 Niedermeyer Mon, 14 May 2007 17:00:22 +0000 http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2007/05/12/insurgent-reprints-magnum-opus-stand-by-for-more-wailing-and-gnashing-of-teeth/#comment-94363 I highly doubt that this has anything to do with our retro issue... it's a funny coincidence, though. It does remind me of a gentler, more innocent time when we once reprinted an issue... it was back in (oh shit, was it '92 or '93?) well, a long time ago anyway, and we published an issue in which we very bluntly called out MEChA for accusing IFC (PFC of the late paleolithic) members of racism for not funding them enough (sound familiar?). The issue was dumped wholesale (presumabely by MEChA members), and we reprinted the issue. Unlike the Insurgent, we had the class to throw out a slightly new "sanitized for your pleasure" cover, and a new editorial to commemorate the event. There's a time and a way to get away with reprinting, but the Insurgent clearly just doesn't care. By the way, those issues are now relegated to our musty vaults, and our online archive doesn't go back that far YET. Check out Fritz von Carp's piece <a href="http://www.oregoncommentator.com/pdf/vol22_issue1415.pdf" rel="nofollow">"This Land Is Our Land"</a> that started all the trouble reprinted on page ten of the OC Almanac. I highly doubt that this has anything to do with our retro issue… it’s a funny coincidence, though. It does remind me of a gentler, more innocent time when we once reprinted an issue… it was back in (oh shit, was it ‘92 or ‘93?) well, a long time ago anyway, and we published an issue in which we very bluntly called out MEChA for accusing IFC (PFC of the late paleolithic) members of racism for not funding them enough (sound familiar?). The issue was dumped wholesale (presumabely by MEChA members), and we reprinted the issue. Unlike the Insurgent, we had the class to throw out a slightly new “sanitized for your pleasure” cover, and a new editorial to commemorate the event. There’s a time and a way to get away with reprinting, but the Insurgent clearly just doesn’t care.

By the way, those issues are now relegated to our musty vaults, and our online archive doesn’t go back that far YET. Check out Fritz von Carp’s piece “This Land Is Our Land” that started all the trouble reprinted on page ten of the OC Almanac.

]]> By: Sean http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2007/05/12/insurgent-reprints-magnum-opus-stand-by-for-more-wailing-and-gnashing-of-teeth/#comment-94362 Sean Mon, 14 May 2007 16:17:05 +0000 http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2007/05/12/insurgent-reprints-magnum-opus-stand-by-for-more-wailing-and-gnashing-of-teeth/#comment-94362 Like the OP said...nothing was going on and they didn't want to put out a new issue. What better than the issue that caused the most controversy? People (especially Brother Jethro) need to keep in mind that this publication is the one done by the likes of the crazy white haired old guy and his young protege who yell incoherent rants about the government and play trumpet in the Amphitheater. Like the OP said…nothing was going on and they didn’t want to put out a new issue. What better than the issue that caused the most controversy?
People (especially Brother Jethro) need to keep in mind that this publication is the one done by the likes of the crazy white haired old guy and his young protege who yell incoherent rants about the government and play trumpet in the Amphitheater.

]]> By: Betz http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2007/05/12/insurgent-reprints-magnum-opus-stand-by-for-more-wailing-and-gnashing-of-teeth/#comment-94361 Betz Mon, 14 May 2007 16:10:20 +0000 http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2007/05/12/insurgent-reprints-magnum-opus-stand-by-for-more-wailing-and-gnashing-of-teeth/#comment-94361 Why the reprint? My theory: the Insurgent was jealous of the OC's slick and cool retro issue, and they wanted a taste too. But when they slid on the decor of retro style, it was like that guy at the party who thinks he's so cool and indie because he wears a cosby sweater. If staff members of the Insurgent should ever find themselves on the defensive edge again from popular (and by popular, I mean by exposure...not that they're worth a damn) pundits of the like of O'Reilly, Limbaugh, Hannity, etc....please, lets not <a href="http://mediamatters.org/items/200605250016" rel="nofollow">defend them again.</a> Choosing to not save their ass is not an instigation of harm. I admit, they probably do (and, begrudgingly, SHOULD) have the journalistic right to publish whatever the hell they want, they should know by now that reprinting this issue is akin to sticking a fork in the electrical socket....MULTIPLE TIMES. Why the reprint? My theory: the Insurgent was jealous of the OC’s slick and cool retro issue, and they wanted a taste too. But when they slid on the decor of retro style, it was like that guy at the party who thinks he’s so cool and indie because he wears a cosby sweater.

If staff members of the Insurgent should ever find themselves on the defensive edge again from popular (and by popular, I mean by exposure…not that they’re worth a damn) pundits of the like of O’Reilly, Limbaugh, Hannity, etc….please, lets not defend them again. Choosing to not save their ass is not an instigation of harm.

I admit, they probably do (and, begrudgingly, SHOULD) have the journalistic right to publish whatever the hell they want, they should know by now that reprinting this issue is akin to sticking a fork in the electrical socket….MULTIPLE TIMES.

]]> By: Sean http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2007/05/12/insurgent-reprints-magnum-opus-stand-by-for-more-wailing-and-gnashing-of-teeth/#comment-94359 Sean Mon, 14 May 2007 15:41:12 +0000 http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2007/05/12/insurgent-reprints-magnum-opus-stand-by-for-more-wailing-and-gnashing-of-teeth/#comment-94359 Our local religious fanatic (and former On the Rocks member) Brother Jethro Higgins has spoken up. I'm surprised he didn't call for God to smite us all. Our local religious fanatic (and former On the Rocks member) Brother Jethro Higgins has spoken up. I’m surprised he didn’t call for God to smite us all.

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