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	<title>Comments on: Senate Blows $835,784 In Overrealized Spending Orgy</title>
	<link>http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2007/05/03/senate-blows-835784-in-overrealized-spending-orgy/</link>
	<description>Free Minds, Free Markets, Free Booze</description>
	<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jul 2008 23:33:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Miles</title>
		<link>http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2007/05/03/senate-blows-835784-in-overrealized-spending-orgy/#comment-94217</link>
		<dc:creator>Miles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 May 2007 01:22:32 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2007/05/03/senate-blows-835784-in-overrealized-spending-orgy/#comment-94217</guid>
		<description>The lounge will be back once the construction in the International Resource Office is finished.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The lounge will be back once the construction in the International Resource Office is finished.</p>
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		<title>By: Some Student</title>
		<link>http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2007/05/03/senate-blows-835784-in-overrealized-spending-orgy/#comment-94216</link>
		<dc:creator>Some Student</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 May 2007 01:06:17 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2007/05/03/senate-blows-835784-in-overrealized-spending-orgy/#comment-94216</guid>
		<description>My feelings on the EMU: This is the STUDENT union, right? Stop taking away all the lounge space and replacing it with offices for the international/multicultural/ethno resource/leadership/information/tolerance center thingy. Sometimes I want to be able to find a quiet place to do something crazy like, say... study? read a book? 

"Oh please, won't someone think of the academics?"</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My feelings on the EMU: This is the STUDENT union, right? Stop taking away all the lounge space and replacing it with offices for the international/multicultural/ethno resource/leadership/information/tolerance center thingy. Sometimes I want to be able to find a quiet place to do something crazy like, say&#8230; study? read a book? </p>
<p>&#8220;Oh please, won&#8217;t someone think of the academics?&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Miles</title>
		<link>http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2007/05/03/senate-blows-835784-in-overrealized-spending-orgy/#comment-94211</link>
		<dc:creator>Miles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 May 2007 04:14:19 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2007/05/03/senate-blows-835784-in-overrealized-spending-orgy/#comment-94211</guid>
		<description>The design will look incredibly stupid. But, that's the MCC for you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The design will look incredibly stupid. But, that&#8217;s the MCC for you.</p>
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		<title>By: Timothy</title>
		<link>http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2007/05/03/senate-blows-835784-in-overrealized-spending-orgy/#comment-94210</link>
		<dc:creator>Timothy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 May 2007 03:24:10 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2007/05/03/senate-blows-835784-in-overrealized-spending-orgy/#comment-94210</guid>
		<description>Talk about symbolism....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Talk about symbolism&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Niedermeyer</title>
		<link>http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2007/05/03/senate-blows-835784-in-overrealized-spending-orgy/#comment-94208</link>
		<dc:creator>Niedermeyer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 May 2007 20:04:30 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2007/05/03/senate-blows-835784-in-overrealized-spending-orgy/#comment-94208</guid>
		<description>The EMU has committed $400,000 from a building fund, and we've been told that the project will cost $1.2 mil, so $800,000 would have covered the whole thing. Basically the project will swap the MCC with the computer lab, and will move the student union offices across the hall so that they would be attached to the MCC.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The EMU has committed $400,000 from a building fund, and we&#8217;ve been told that the project will cost $1.2 mil, so $800,000 would have covered the whole thing. Basically the project will swap the MCC with the computer lab, and will move the student union offices across the hall so that they would be attached to the MCC.</p>
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		<title>By: Miles</title>
		<link>http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2007/05/03/senate-blows-835784-in-overrealized-spending-orgy/#comment-94207</link>
		<dc:creator>Miles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 May 2007 19:45:50 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2007/05/03/senate-blows-835784-in-overrealized-spending-orgy/#comment-94207</guid>
		<description>For just that area, that little hallway? It could. However they're looking for a whole new wing to be built. Not something that can work. 

All that, however, may become moot if the Administration is able to put it's foot down.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For just that area, that little hallway? It could. However they&#8217;re looking for a whole new wing to be built. Not something that can work. </p>
<p>All that, however, may become moot if the Administration is able to put it&#8217;s foot down.</p>
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		<title>By: Meghann</title>
		<link>http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2007/05/03/senate-blows-835784-in-overrealized-spending-orgy/#comment-94206</link>
		<dc:creator>Meghann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 May 2007 19:13:50 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2007/05/03/senate-blows-835784-in-overrealized-spending-orgy/#comment-94206</guid>
		<description>What do you mean by "qualify for renovation?" It seems like with the way construction costs are, 800k won't be you anything. Especially not an entire renovation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What do you mean by &#8220;qualify for renovation?&#8221; It seems like with the way construction costs are, 800k won&#8217;t be you anything. Especially not an entire renovation.</p>
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		<title>By: Miles</title>
		<link>http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2007/05/03/senate-blows-835784-in-overrealized-spending-orgy/#comment-94199</link>
		<dc:creator>Miles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 May 2007 08:12:14 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2007/05/03/senate-blows-835784-in-overrealized-spending-orgy/#comment-94199</guid>
		<description>Megs: For the master plan to be fully funded, we need 20 million. 800K would qualify for renovation. Of course, the commies (except the Jewish Student Union) along the Multicultural Highway won't tell people this because they want the money for themselves.

However, if the rules are as they are, the Multicultural wing may not get any funding, as student funds CANNOT go to construction.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Megs: For the master plan to be fully funded, we need 20 million. 800K would qualify for renovation. Of course, the commies (except the Jewish Student Union) along the Multicultural Highway won&#8217;t tell people this because they want the money for themselves.</p>
<p>However, if the rules are as they are, the Multicultural wing may not get any funding, as student funds CANNOT go to construction.</p>
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		<title>By: Meghann</title>
		<link>http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2007/05/03/senate-blows-835784-in-overrealized-spending-orgy/#comment-94195</link>
		<dc:creator>Meghann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 May 2007 04:59:17 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2007/05/03/senate-blows-835784-in-overrealized-spending-orgy/#comment-94195</guid>
		<description>How is $800,000 going to build an entire new wing to the EMU?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How is $800,000 going to build an entire new wing to the EMU?</p>
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		<title>By: Blaser</title>
		<link>http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2007/05/03/senate-blows-835784-in-overrealized-spending-orgy/#comment-94178</link>
		<dc:creator>Blaser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 May 2007 20:55:35 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2007/05/03/senate-blows-835784-in-overrealized-spending-orgy/#comment-94178</guid>
		<description>Yeah Natalie, that was some crazy shit. My favorite part of the show was when they talked about how the biggest threats to the church were feminists, homosexuals and intellectuals.

Next time when they come to the door I'm just going to tell them that my "partner" and I are on our way to a rally at the Women's Center ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah Natalie, that was some crazy shit. My favorite part of the show was when they talked about how the biggest threats to the church were feminists, homosexuals and intellectuals.</p>
<p>Next time when they come to the door I&#8217;m just going to tell them that my &#8220;partner&#8221; and I are on our way to a rally at the Women&#8217;s Center &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Miles</title>
		<link>http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2007/05/03/senate-blows-835784-in-overrealized-spending-orgy/#comment-94172</link>
		<dc:creator>Miles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 May 2007 19:07:06 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2007/05/03/senate-blows-835784-in-overrealized-spending-orgy/#comment-94172</guid>
		<description>Seems like the Administration has pretty much given those who oppose the Miller Theatre and the MC Wing expansion all the ammo it needs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seems like the Administration has pretty much given those who oppose the Miller Theatre and the MC Wing expansion all the ammo it needs.</p>
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		<title>By: Danimal</title>
		<link>http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2007/05/03/senate-blows-835784-in-overrealized-spending-orgy/#comment-94167</link>
		<dc:creator>Danimal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 May 2007 15:12:20 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2007/05/03/senate-blows-835784-in-overrealized-spending-orgy/#comment-94167</guid>
		<description>I'm not sure I'd want the rule of law coming down in my pocket.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not sure I&#8217;d want the rule of law coming down in my pocket.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard</title>
		<link>http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2007/05/03/senate-blows-835784-in-overrealized-spending-orgy/#comment-94162</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 May 2007 04:50:06 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2007/05/03/senate-blows-835784-in-overrealized-spending-orgy/#comment-94162</guid>
		<description>Frohnmayer won't veto the $300,000 out of fear he will be labeled a communi...err..., I mean,"racist" by Senator McCarth... err..., I mean, Gulley.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Frohnmayer won&#8217;t veto the $300,000 out of fear he will be labeled a communi&#8230;err&#8230;, I mean,&#8221;racist&#8221; by Senator McCarth&#8230; err&#8230;, I mean, Gulley.</p>
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		<title>By: Anthony</title>
		<link>http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2007/05/03/senate-blows-835784-in-overrealized-spending-orgy/#comment-94161</link>
		<dc:creator>Anthony</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 May 2007 03:38:39 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2007/05/03/senate-blows-835784-in-overrealized-spending-orgy/#comment-94161</guid>
		<description>While I do not know the specifics of the Multicultural Wing Expansion effort, it sounds similar to the recent International Resource Center Expansion.  That being said, the IRC expansion was funded primarily through donations.  From what I know and understand, the Multicultural Wing Expansion is being funded primarily through incidental fees.  The amount that was approved at last nights senate meeting does not come close to what is needed in order to fund the entire expansion effort.  If that is true, did the ASUO Senate authorize funds for something that may never come to fruition?

Is that pool of money going to sit in the overrealized fund until the EMU Board of Directors or the State of Oregon decide to fork over the necessary $1.2 million to create the garagantuan monstrousity that will become the lower realms of the EMU?  If so, I hope President Frohnmayer decides to veto the allocation.  The allocation for the Multicultural Wing Expansion definitely violates the GreenTape Notebook's regulations for the allocation of overrealized funds.  The Clark Document states, as Niedermeyer pointed out, that they can only be used for one time, non-reoccuring items.  Not only is this approval NOT a one time allocation, the full funding for the expansion is still in limbo.

It seems to me, as an outsider, that the supporters of this proposal not only want students to foot the bill for some grandiose scheme (as always), it seems that they are lacksadaiscal in their approach.  How can the international community raise the necessary $1.3 million for their expansion, and the MCC and folks can't raise a dime.

My serious hope is that someone with common sense and "cojones" actually steps to the plate and stops this approval.  Given that Axelrod and Co. are supportive of this, it comes down to Frohnmayer.  Will he let witch hunters succeed or will the rule of law come down on students side (and in their pockets)?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While I do not know the specifics of the Multicultural Wing Expansion effort, it sounds similar to the recent International Resource Center Expansion.  That being said, the IRC expansion was funded primarily through donations.  From what I know and understand, the Multicultural Wing Expansion is being funded primarily through incidental fees.  The amount that was approved at last nights senate meeting does not come close to what is needed in order to fund the entire expansion effort.  If that is true, did the ASUO Senate authorize funds for something that may never come to fruition?</p>
<p>Is that pool of money going to sit in the overrealized fund until the EMU Board of Directors or the State of Oregon decide to fork over the necessary $1.2 million to create the garagantuan monstrousity that will become the lower realms of the EMU?  If so, I hope President Frohnmayer decides to veto the allocation.  The allocation for the Multicultural Wing Expansion definitely violates the GreenTape Notebook&#8217;s regulations for the allocation of overrealized funds.  The Clark Document states, as Niedermeyer pointed out, that they can only be used for one time, non-reoccuring items.  Not only is this approval NOT a one time allocation, the full funding for the expansion is still in limbo.</p>
<p>It seems to me, as an outsider, that the supporters of this proposal not only want students to foot the bill for some grandiose scheme (as always), it seems that they are lacksadaiscal in their approach.  How can the international community raise the necessary $1.3 million for their expansion, and the MCC and folks can&#8217;t raise a dime.</p>
<p>My serious hope is that someone with common sense and &#8220;cojones&#8221; actually steps to the plate and stops this approval.  Given that Axelrod and Co. are supportive of this, it comes down to Frohnmayer.  Will he let witch hunters succeed or will the rule of law come down on students side (and in their pockets)?</p>
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		<title>By: Timothy</title>
		<link>http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2007/05/03/senate-blows-835784-in-overrealized-spending-orgy/#comment-94159</link>
		<dc:creator>Timothy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 May 2007 03:01:16 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2007/05/03/senate-blows-835784-in-overrealized-spending-orgy/#comment-94159</guid>
		<description>DRINK!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DRINK!</p>
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		<title>By: natalie</title>
		<link>http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2007/05/03/senate-blows-835784-in-overrealized-spending-orgy/#comment-94158</link>
		<dc:creator>natalie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 May 2007 02:59:20 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2007/05/03/senate-blows-835784-in-overrealized-spending-orgy/#comment-94158</guid>
		<description>Andrea -
I know this is totally off topic, but I watched that Mormon special on pbs too....what'd you think of their mountain escape with the names of all the deceased they intend to baptize?!?!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Andrea -<br />
I know this is totally off topic, but I watched that Mormon special on pbs too&#8230;.what&#8217;d you think of their mountain escape with the names of all the deceased they intend to baptize?!?!!</p>
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		<title>By: Miles</title>
		<link>http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2007/05/03/senate-blows-835784-in-overrealized-spending-orgy/#comment-94154</link>
		<dc:creator>Miles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 May 2007 23:33:03 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2007/05/03/senate-blows-835784-in-overrealized-spending-orgy/#comment-94154</guid>
		<description>Time to file the lawsuit to have all proposals stopped.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Time to file the lawsuit to have all proposals stopped.</p>
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		<title>By: Blaser</title>
		<link>http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2007/05/03/senate-blows-835784-in-overrealized-spending-orgy/#comment-94151</link>
		<dc:creator>Blaser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 May 2007 22:38:58 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2007/05/03/senate-blows-835784-in-overrealized-spending-orgy/#comment-94151</guid>
		<description>Oh my god ... this is actually really creepy. No joke, some Mormons just came to the door 3 minutes ago ... I have the pamphlet to prove it, "The Restoration of the Gospel of Jesus Christ"!

After watching that PBS show I felt kinda sorry for them and blew them off very nicely, wishing them luck in the neighborhood. 

Maybe our friends were right, Tandrea ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh my god &#8230; this is actually really creepy. No joke, some Mormons just came to the door 3 minutes ago &#8230; I have the pamphlet to prove it, &#8220;The Restoration of the Gospel of Jesus Christ&#8221;!</p>
<p>After watching that PBS show I felt kinda sorry for them and blew them off very nicely, wishing them luck in the neighborhood. </p>
<p>Maybe our friends were right, Tandrea &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Niedermeyer</title>
		<link>http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2007/05/03/senate-blows-835784-in-overrealized-spending-orgy/#comment-94150</link>
		<dc:creator>Niedermeyer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 May 2007 22:18:53 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2007/05/03/senate-blows-835784-in-overrealized-spending-orgy/#comment-94150</guid>
		<description>It's like we're psychically linked. 

Let's run away and become Mormons.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s like we&#8217;re psychically linked. </p>
<p>Let&#8217;s run away and become Mormons.</p>
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		<title>By: Blaser</title>
		<link>http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2007/05/03/senate-blows-835784-in-overrealized-spending-orgy/#comment-94149</link>
		<dc:creator>Blaser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 May 2007 22:06:07 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2007/05/03/senate-blows-835784-in-overrealized-spending-orgy/#comment-94149</guid>
		<description>Hey Niedermeyer, way to beat me to the reply, even though it was technically at the same time ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Niedermeyer, way to beat me to the reply, even though it was technically at the same time &#8230;</p>
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