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	<title>Comments on: Election Day 2006: If You&#8217;re Still Sober, You Probably Hate Freedom</title>
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		<title>By: Niedermeyer</title>
		<link>http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2006/11/07/election-day-2006-if-youre-still-sober-you-probably-hate-freedom/#comment-56220</link>
		<dc:creator>Niedermeyer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Nov 2006 04:21:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, I'm just not sure how much political benefit there is to serving up Rumsfeld on a platter just because the R's lost some elections. In fact it speaks to their real priorities: a bungled occupation and a major prison abuse scandal won't get you fired, but "losing" partisan elections will.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, I&#8217;m just not sure how much political benefit there is to serving up Rumsfeld on a platter just because the R&#8217;s lost some elections. In fact it speaks to their real priorities: a bungled occupation and a major prison abuse scandal won&#8217;t get you fired, but &#8220;losing&#8221; partisan elections will.</p>
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		<title>By: T</title>
		<link>http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2006/11/07/election-day-2006-if-youre-still-sober-you-probably-hate-freedom/#comment-56215</link>
		<dc:creator>T</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Nov 2006 03:54:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My problem: Same ol', same ol'. But, hey, things might improve. Dear Lord, let them improve.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My problem: Same ol&#8217;, same ol&#8217;. But, hey, things might improve. Dear Lord, let them improve.</p>
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		<title>By: Ian</title>
		<link>http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2006/11/07/election-day-2006-if-youre-still-sober-you-probably-hate-freedom/#comment-56193</link>
		<dc:creator>Ian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Nov 2006 01:06:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>More on Gates &lt;a href="http://www.slate.com/id/2153287/fr/rss/" rel="nofollow" rel="nofollow"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>More on Gates <a href="http://www.slate.com/id/2153287/fr/rss/" rel="nofollow" rel="nofollow">here</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Ian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Nov 2006 00:26:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don't know if he'll be just as bad as Rumsfeld. He had that little incident with the Contras back in the day, but he is from the so-called "realist" school of foreign policy, not a neo-conservative.

Take this for what you will, but the conventional wisdom among TV pundits seems to be that Bush 41's foreign policy crew is extremely critical of the way Bush 43's people have handled the war and the entrance of Bob Gates will mean a significant change in the way it is conducted, for better or worse.

The real question is, even if he makes the right moves is it simply too little, too late? Probably.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know if he&#8217;ll be just as bad as Rumsfeld. He had that little incident with the Contras back in the day, but he is from the so-called &#8220;realist&#8221; school of foreign policy, not a neo-conservative.</p>
<p>Take this for what you will, but the conventional wisdom among TV pundits seems to be that Bush 41&#8217;s foreign policy crew is extremely critical of the way Bush 43&#8217;s people have handled the war and the entrance of Bob Gates will mean a significant change in the way it is conducted, for better or worse.</p>
<p>The real question is, even if he makes the right moves is it simply too little, too late? Probably.</p>
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		<title>By: Dustin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dustin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Nov 2006 22:50:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To be honest I don't know anything about Rummy's replacement now perhaps you could elaborate on why old whats his name is just as crappy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To be honest I don&#8217;t know anything about Rummy&#8217;s replacement now perhaps you could elaborate on why old whats his name is just as crappy.</p>
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		<title>By: T</title>
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		<dc:creator>T</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Nov 2006 21:20:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, that is quite a bit more sensible than Barton's plan (essentially: shoot on site.)

Rumsfeld stepped down, only to have Bush nominate someone just as crappy. Live long and prosper, beloved spoils system.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, that is quite a bit more sensible than Barton&#8217;s plan (essentially: shoot on site.)</p>
<p>Rumsfeld stepped down, only to have Bush nominate someone just as crappy. Live long and prosper, beloved spoils system.</p>
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		<title>By: Dustin</title>
		<link>http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2006/11/07/election-day-2006-if-youre-still-sober-you-probably-hate-freedom/#comment-56157</link>
		<dc:creator>Dustin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Nov 2006 21:03:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The president and the senate had agreed on an immigration plan that was sensible.  A guest worker program coupled with earned citizenship for the laborers who have kept our economy afloat.  Niedermeyer has convinced me that legalizing the "illegals" will help fix the social security crises to boot.  If we want these immigrants to assimilate, learn english, and buy into the American dream we have to give them legal status.  The Republican House killed this legislation.  In other good news Donald Rumsfeld has stepped down.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The president and the senate had agreed on an immigration plan that was sensible.  A guest worker program coupled with earned citizenship for the laborers who have kept our economy afloat.  Niedermeyer has convinced me that legalizing the &#8220;illegals&#8221; will help fix the social security crises to boot.  If we want these immigrants to assimilate, learn english, and buy into the American dream we have to give them legal status.  The Republican House killed this legislation.  In other good news Donald Rumsfeld has stepped down.</p>
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		<title>By: T</title>
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		<dc:creator>T</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Nov 2006 20:42:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dustin: Joe Barton is indeed an asshat, especially when it comes to immigration. So I'm wondering: What you mean by "real immigration reform?"</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dustin: Joe Barton is indeed an asshat, especially when it comes to immigration. So I&#8217;m wondering: What you mean by &#8220;real immigration reform?&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Dustin</title>
		<link>http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2006/11/07/election-day-2006-if-youre-still-sober-you-probably-hate-freedom/#comment-56125</link>
		<dc:creator>Dustin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Nov 2006 20:05:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bush took his small victory in '04 as a mandate for his policies instead of realizing how lucky he was to run against a pitifully mismanaged campaign.  Now the liberal's are taking this election as a sign that conservatives have finally "wised up" and realized that they were wrong about the war, and the awful Democrat platform.  The story is not how the Democrats won but how Republican corruption and arrogance forced Americans to send them a message.  I hope they got the message so we can throw the bums, who just got power back, out in '08.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bush took his small victory in &#8216;04 as a mandate for his policies instead of realizing how lucky he was to run against a pitifully mismanaged campaign.  Now the liberal&#8217;s are taking this election as a sign that conservatives have finally &#8220;wised up&#8221; and realized that they were wrong about the war, and the awful Democrat platform.  The story is not how the Democrats won but how Republican corruption and arrogance forced Americans to send them a message.  I hope they got the message so we can throw the bums, who just got power back, out in &#8216;08.</p>
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		<title>By: Dustin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dustin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Nov 2006 19:22:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I may spit on the Republicans but I poop on the Dems.</description>
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		<title>By: Jacob Daniels</title>
		<link>http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2006/11/07/election-day-2006-if-youre-still-sober-you-probably-hate-freedom/#comment-56099</link>
		<dc:creator>Jacob Daniels</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Nov 2006 18:19:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Today is a sad day. Nancy Pelosi is the next speaker of the House.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Today is a sad day. Nancy Pelosi is the next speaker of the House.</p>
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		<title>By: Niedermeyer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Niedermeyer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Nov 2006 16:21:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Says the man who "spit on the Republican party" in his last column...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Says the man who &#8220;spit on the Republican party&#8221; in his last column&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Dustin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dustin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Nov 2006 08:30:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If the Dem's can win it makes you wonder if this whole democracy thing is really worth while.  The media is already pushing this as a mandate against the war and overcome with glee thinking of all the invesitgations the new house will undoubtly launch.  It's a dark day for America.  

The only thing keeping me from utter despair is the fact that we should finally see some real immigration reform and Joe Barton (R-TX) won't be able to hold up the Combating Autism Act.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If the Dem&#8217;s can win it makes you wonder if this whole democracy thing is really worth while.  The media is already pushing this as a mandate against the war and overcome with glee thinking of all the invesitgations the new house will undoubtly launch.  It&#8217;s a dark day for America.  </p>
<p>The only thing keeping me from utter despair is the fact that we should finally see some real immigration reform and Joe Barton (R-TX) won&#8217;t be able to hold up the Combating Autism Act.</p>
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		<title>By: Ian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Nov 2006 23:49:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>TradeSports has swung heavily in favor of the Dems in the past hour, especially in the House.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TradeSports has swung heavily in favor of the Dems in the past hour, especially in the House.</p>
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		<title>By: Timothy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Timothy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Nov 2006 21:09:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Typical, if sad, that Fox would do that.</description>
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