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	<title>Comments on: Purely Informational</title>
	<link>http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2006/07/17/purely-informational/</link>
	<description>Free Minds, Free Markets, Free Booze</description>
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		<title>By: Shaheen A. Al-Haddad</title>
		<link>http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2006/07/17/purely-informational/#comment-23457</link>
		<dc:creator>Shaheen A. Al-Haddad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Jul 2006 05:19:34 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2006/07/17/purely-informational/#comment-23457</guid>
		<description>I agree my approach was a bit hostile and therefore alienated everyone right off the bat. Read the skeptics section on the forums at www.loosechange911.com. Just look into this stuff is all I'm asking.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree my approach was a bit hostile and therefore alienated everyone right off the bat. Read the skeptics section on the forums at <a href="http://www.loosechange911.com." rel="nofollow">http://www.loosechange911.com.</a> Just look into this stuff is all I&#8217;m asking.</p>
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		<title>By: Olly</title>
		<link>http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2006/07/17/purely-informational/#comment-23429</link>
		<dc:creator>Olly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Jul 2006 03:24:14 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2006/07/17/purely-informational/#comment-23429</guid>
		<description>Choice quotes from Shaheen's last link:&lt;blockquote&gt;Is it not possible that these columns were destroyed by bombs? ... Isn't it just too much of a coincidence that the crash happened at this very spot with these "blast resistant" windows? ...  Couldn't those marks from a plane wing (if he really did see them) be caused by a different aircraft? ... If he was able to pick up plane parts by hand, then couldn't these parts have been planted by hand? ...  And that photo is consistent with a fiery missile attack or other type of plane crash!&lt;/blockquote&gt;This is not a refutation of anything in the Popular Mechanics piece. It's a bunch of speculative nonsense, substantiated by links to even more speculative nonsense. On this basis, you might as well believe that aliens crashed flying saucers into the World Trade Center, or creatures from Atlantis fired RPGs at the Pentagon, or that 9/11 never happened at all and we're really undergoing a mass hallucination brought about by the CIA putting dope in the reservoirs. &lt;blockquote&gt;I expect personal apologies from all of you at some point down the line. The truth is coming out and it’s only a matter of time before you guys realize it.&lt;/blockquote&gt;Don't hold your breath, ace.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Choice quotes from Shaheen&#8217;s last link:<br />
<blockquote>Is it not possible that these columns were destroyed by bombs? &#8230; Isn&#8217;t it just too much of a coincidence that the crash happened at this very spot with these &#8220;blast resistant&#8221; windows? &#8230;  Couldn&#8217;t those marks from a plane wing (if he really did see them) be caused by a different aircraft? &#8230; If he was able to pick up plane parts by hand, then couldn&#8217;t these parts have been planted by hand? &#8230;  And that photo is consistent with a fiery missile attack or other type of plane crash!</p></blockquote>
<p>This is not a refutation of anything in the Popular Mechanics piece. It&#8217;s a bunch of speculative nonsense, substantiated by links to even more speculative nonsense. On this basis, you might as well believe that aliens crashed flying saucers into the World Trade Center, or creatures from Atlantis fired RPGs at the Pentagon, or that 9/11 never happened at all and we&#8217;re really undergoing a mass hallucination brought about by the CIA putting dope in the reservoirs.<br />
<blockquote>I expect personal apologies from all of you at some point down the line. The truth is coming out and it’s only a matter of time before you guys realize it.</p></blockquote>
<p>Don&#8217;t hold your breath, ace.</p>
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		<title>By: Timothy</title>
		<link>http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2006/07/17/purely-informational/#comment-23392</link>
		<dc:creator>Timothy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Jul 2006 01:02:30 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2006/07/17/purely-informational/#comment-23392</guid>
		<description>BAH!  Going out of the country is a likely story!  Why do you hate me and America, Sho?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BAH!  Going out of the country is a likely story!  Why do you hate me and America, Sho?</p>
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		<title>By: Sho</title>
		<link>http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2006/07/17/purely-informational/#comment-23367</link>
		<dc:creator>Sho</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Jul 2006 00:13:34 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2006/07/17/purely-informational/#comment-23367</guid>
		<description>Shaheen,

I think there are some questions in regards to the 9/11 attacks that could be more carefully examined through rational public discourse; however, it's not like your condescending attitude is making me any more motivated to look into it.

Tim,

I'm sad to say I won't be in town for your visit as I'll be heading back to Portland on Friday in preparation for my trip overseas.  I'll remember to raise a glass in your honor in London.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shaheen,</p>
<p>I think there are some questions in regards to the 9/11 attacks that could be more carefully examined through rational public discourse; however, it&#8217;s not like your condescending attitude is making me any more motivated to look into it.</p>
<p>Tim,</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sad to say I won&#8217;t be in town for your visit as I&#8217;ll be heading back to Portland on Friday in preparation for my trip overseas.  I&#8217;ll remember to raise a glass in your honor in London.</p>
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		<title>By: Timothy</title>
		<link>http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2006/07/17/purely-informational/#comment-23356</link>
		<dc:creator>Timothy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Jul 2006 23:15:29 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2006/07/17/purely-informational/#comment-23356</guid>
		<description>Oh, you do not even know the &lt;a href="http://timecube.com/" rel="nofollow"&gt;depth&lt;/a&gt;.  You cannot fathom it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, you do not even know the <a href="http://timecube.com/" rel="nofollow">depth</a>.  You cannot fathom it.</p>
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		<title>By: Tyler</title>
		<link>http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2006/07/17/purely-informational/#comment-23349</link>
		<dc:creator>Tyler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Jul 2006 22:38:45 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2006/07/17/purely-informational/#comment-23349</guid>
		<description>Let's ask the guy looking at porn in the library. I bet he's still there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let&#8217;s ask the guy looking at porn in the library. I bet he&#8217;s still there.</p>
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		<title>By: Niedermeyer</title>
		<link>http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2006/07/17/purely-informational/#comment-23334</link>
		<dc:creator>Niedermeyer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Jul 2006 22:00:49 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2006/07/17/purely-informational/#comment-23334</guid>
		<description>They were like, on the grassy knoll too, right?

Man the shit is way deeper than I ever thought....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They were like, on the grassy knoll too, right?</p>
<p>Man the shit is way deeper than I ever thought&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Timothy</title>
		<link>http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2006/07/17/purely-informational/#comment-23320</link>
		<dc:creator>Timothy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Jul 2006 21:07:52 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2006/07/17/purely-informational/#comment-23320</guid>
		<description>Don't you know, Ted, it was TEH JOOOZ!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t you know, Ted, it was TEH JOOOZ!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Niedermeyer</title>
		<link>http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2006/07/17/purely-informational/#comment-23319</link>
		<dc:creator>Niedermeyer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Jul 2006 20:54:14 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2006/07/17/purely-informational/#comment-23319</guid>
		<description>I think we can all agree that it is hard to believe that an attack as destructive and impactful as 9/11 could be carried out by a handfull of religious extremists. As a former Oklahma City and JFK conspiracy theorist, I understand the appeal of trying to uncover hidden truths about events of great significance. Ultimately though,  history is the myth that the most people agree on... regardless of "right" and "wrong", do you really think people would rather fight a civil war in this country against the "Bush Cabal" or whoever may or may not be involved in this conspiracy, or bomb people on the other side of the world who may or may not have attacked our country?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think we can all agree that it is hard to believe that an attack as destructive and impactful as 9/11 could be carried out by a handfull of religious extremists. As a former Oklahma City and JFK conspiracy theorist, I understand the appeal of trying to uncover hidden truths about events of great significance. Ultimately though,  history is the myth that the most people agree on&#8230; regardless of &#8220;right&#8221; and &#8220;wrong&#8221;, do you really think people would rather fight a civil war in this country against the &#8220;Bush Cabal&#8221; or whoever may or may not be involved in this conspiracy, or bomb people on the other side of the world who may or may not have attacked our country?</p>
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		<title>By: Timothy</title>
		<link>http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2006/07/17/purely-informational/#comment-23318</link>
		<dc:creator>Timothy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Jul 2006 20:48:36 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2006/07/17/purely-informational/#comment-23318</guid>
		<description>Actually, that's just indigestion.  I shouldn't have had that pepperoni sandwich for lunch.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, that&#8217;s just indigestion.  I shouldn&#8217;t have had that pepperoni sandwich for lunch.</p>
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		<title>By: Shaheen A. Al-Haddad</title>
		<link>http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2006/07/17/purely-informational/#comment-23317</link>
		<dc:creator>Shaheen A. Al-Haddad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Jul 2006 20:01:41 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2006/07/17/purely-informational/#comment-23317</guid>
		<description>I expect personal apologies from all of you at some point down the line. The truth is coming out and it's only a matter of time before you guys realize it. I suggest you all spend a good few weeks pouring over everything before you dismiss these "highly speculative theories." 

These "theories" are only far reaching because people purporting to be intelligent and aware dismiss and blackball them before they even look into them.

You know that scary feeling you get in your stomach and chest when you find out about something you don't know? Yea, that's what you should be getting right about now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I expect personal apologies from all of you at some point down the line. The truth is coming out and it&#8217;s only a matter of time before you guys realize it. I suggest you all spend a good few weeks pouring over everything before you dismiss these &#8220;highly speculative theories.&#8221; </p>
<p>These &#8220;theories&#8221; are only far reaching because people purporting to be intelligent and aware dismiss and blackball them before they even look into them.</p>
<p>You know that scary feeling you get in your stomach and chest when you find out about something you don&#8217;t know? Yea, that&#8217;s what you should be getting right about now.</p>
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		<title>By: Niedermeyer</title>
		<link>http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2006/07/17/purely-informational/#comment-23310</link>
		<dc:creator>Niedermeyer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Jul 2006 19:13:37 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2006/07/17/purely-informational/#comment-23310</guid>
		<description>Shaheen, I liked your piece on Iran a lot, but I just can't help feeling like the whole 9-11 conspiracy tangent is a better fit for The Insurgent... it's not that it's complete nonsense -per se- it's just that it's really hard to create a constructive discourse around highly speculative theories.  

Why rehash a national tragedy when there are so many issues on which to build some consensus in the here-and-now. I think that the issue is so divisive, and the theory you are trying to prove is so far reaching that there is little good that can come out of printing it in the magazine.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shaheen, I liked your piece on Iran a lot, but I just can&#8217;t help feeling like the whole 9-11 conspiracy tangent is a better fit for The Insurgent&#8230; it&#8217;s not that it&#8217;s complete nonsense -per se- it&#8217;s just that it&#8217;s really hard to create a constructive discourse around highly speculative theories.  </p>
<p>Why rehash a national tragedy when there are so many issues on which to build some consensus in the here-and-now. I think that the issue is so divisive, and the theory you are trying to prove is so far reaching that there is little good that can come out of printing it in the magazine.</p>
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		<title>By: Shaheen A. Al-Haddad</title>
		<link>http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2006/07/17/purely-informational/#comment-23299</link>
		<dc:creator>Shaheen A. Al-Haddad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Jul 2006 17:42:44 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2006/07/17/purely-informational/#comment-23299</guid>
		<description>&lt;a href="http://killtown.911review.org/flight77/debunking/popularmechanics.html"  rel="nofollow"&gt;Crazy ramblings made linkable&lt;/a&gt;

--Your Friendly Neighborhood Administrator.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://killtown.911review.org/flight77/debunking/popularmechanics.html"  rel="nofollow">Crazy ramblings made linkable</a></p>
<p>&#8211;Your Friendly Neighborhood Administrator.</p>
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		<title>By: Andy</title>
		<link>http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2006/07/17/purely-informational/#comment-23283</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Jul 2006 14:30:40 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2006/07/17/purely-informational/#comment-23283</guid>
		<description>LoL! 

"Oregon Commentator publishes evidence of 9/11 cover-up"

Editor1: wait..who the fuck is the OC? 
Editor2: Uhm, a student news paper from the UofO that looked at some websites and critically examined the 'evidence.'
Editor1:"Git that corn outa my faaace!" (nacho libre..)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LoL! </p>
<p>&#8220;Oregon Commentator publishes evidence of 9/11 cover-up&#8221;</p>
<p>Editor1: wait..who the fuck is the OC?<br />
Editor2: Uhm, a student news paper from the UofO that looked at some websites and critically examined the &#8216;evidence.&#8217;<br />
Editor1:&#8221;Git that corn outa my faaace!&#8221; (nacho libre..)</p>
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		<title>By: Olly</title>
		<link>http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2006/07/17/purely-informational/#comment-23282</link>
		<dc:creator>Olly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Jul 2006 14:29:09 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2006/07/17/purely-informational/#comment-23282</guid>
		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I’m so glad you pulled out that ridiculous (and obvious propaganda) from Popular Mechanics. It was authored by Benjamin Chertoff. I hope that sounds familiar. His cousin Michael is head of the Department of Homeland Security. Man, you guys should do your fucking homework.&lt;/blockquote&gt;Speaking of homework, when you say "obvious propaganda," I assume that means that you can refute all - or some, or any - of the assertions it makes.&lt;blockquote&gt;9/11 was an inside job, everyone knows it, you guys are behind...&lt;/blockquote&gt;Excuse me, but are you trying to use &lt;i&gt;peer pressure&lt;/i&gt; to convince people of the veracity of your absurd conspiracy theories? Do you find this often works?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I’m so glad you pulled out that ridiculous (and obvious propaganda) from Popular Mechanics. It was authored by Benjamin Chertoff. I hope that sounds familiar. His cousin Michael is head of the Department of Homeland Security. Man, you guys should do your fucking homework.</p></blockquote>
<p>Speaking of homework, when you say &#8220;obvious propaganda,&#8221; I assume that means that you can refute all - or some, or any - of the assertions it makes.<br />
<blockquote>9/11 was an inside job, everyone knows it, you guys are behind&#8230;</p></blockquote>
<p>Excuse me, but are you trying to use <i>peer pressure</i> to convince people of the veracity of your absurd conspiracy theories? Do you find this often works?</p>
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		<title>By: Shaheen A. Al-Haddad</title>
		<link>http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2006/07/17/purely-informational/#comment-23254</link>
		<dc:creator>Shaheen A. Al-Haddad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Jul 2006 08:58:06 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2006/07/17/purely-informational/#comment-23254</guid>
		<description>Oh, man... I really thought that by now you guys would have gotten your heads out of your asses and critically examined this stuff... To Tyler, you think you're some wise guy? I'm so glad you pulled out that ridiculous (and obvious propaganda) from Popular Mechanics. It was authored by Benjamin Chertoff. I hope that sounds familiar. His cousin Michael is head of the Department of Homeland Security. Man, you guys should do your fucking homework. 9/11 was an inside job, everyone knows it, you guys are behind, suck it up and accept it and then do something about it. Wish I could be in Eugene to help out, I really do, but I moved back to Los Angeles (back where I can be in good company with the rest of all those tin foil hat wearing conspiracy theorists). Wake up guys.

I'll make things easy for you stubborn guys. 

www.universalseed.org
www.supportthetruth.com
www.loosechange911.com  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, man&#8230; I really thought that by now you guys would have gotten your heads out of your asses and critically examined this stuff&#8230; To Tyler, you think you&#8217;re some wise guy? I&#8217;m so glad you pulled out that ridiculous (and obvious propaganda) from Popular Mechanics. It was authored by Benjamin Chertoff. I hope that sounds familiar. His cousin Michael is head of the Department of Homeland Security. Man, you guys should do your fucking homework. 9/11 was an inside job, everyone knows it, you guys are behind, suck it up and accept it and then do something about it. Wish I could be in Eugene to help out, I really do, but I moved back to Los Angeles (back where I can be in good company with the rest of all those tin foil hat wearing conspiracy theorists). Wake up guys.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll make things easy for you stubborn guys. </p>
<p><a href="http://www.universalseed.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.universalseed.org</a><br />
<a href="http://www.supportthetruth.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.supportthetruth.com</a><br />
<a href="http://www.loosechange911.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.loosechange911.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: Olly</title>
		<link>http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2006/07/17/purely-informational/#comment-23221</link>
		<dc:creator>Olly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Jul 2006 04:50:50 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2006/07/17/purely-informational/#comment-23221</guid>
		<description>Tyler, you're like the OC's own Carl Monday.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tyler, you&#8217;re like the OC&#8217;s own Carl Monday.</p>
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		<title>By: Greg S.</title>
		<link>http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2006/07/17/purely-informational/#comment-23218</link>
		<dc:creator>Greg S.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Jul 2006 04:25:44 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2006/07/17/purely-informational/#comment-23218</guid>
		<description>I think Shaheen's "real strategy" for impeaching Bush involves something about passing a ASUO Senate resolution about it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think Shaheen&#8217;s &#8220;real strategy&#8221; for impeaching Bush involves something about passing a ASUO Senate resolution about it.</p>
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		<title>By: Timothy</title>
		<link>http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2006/07/17/purely-informational/#comment-23214</link>
		<dc:creator>Timothy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Jul 2006 04:01:01 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2006/07/17/purely-informational/#comment-23214</guid>
		<description>Why is it that my posts have a disproportionate tendency to attract nutcases?  I mean, shit, all I did was say "hey, dudes, I'm gonna be in town maybe we can get drunk" and this guy shows up.  The hell?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why is it that my posts have a disproportionate tendency to attract nutcases?  I mean, shit, all I did was say &#8220;hey, dudes, I&#8217;m gonna be in town maybe we can get drunk&#8221; and this guy shows up.  The hell?</p>
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		<title>By: Andy</title>
		<link>http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2006/07/17/purely-informational/#comment-23206</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Jul 2006 03:13:23 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2006/07/17/purely-informational/#comment-23206</guid>
		<description>Tyler, are you in town? Lets meet at rennie's sometime. 

WTF does a "real strategy" for impeaching Bush have anything to do with the UofO?? I assume you've read our magazine so you cannot dismiss the fact that we do run stories that can have a big impact on campus. 

There is no reasonable proof that the towers we brought down by demolition, the war on terror is no more illegal than the IRS, Bush won both elections fair and square according to our system. 

Everyone seems so intent on focusing on the symptoms of the disease that is killing America.

I do agree with you that we've been brainwashed - into believing that government does more good than harm. 

The only thing Americans are stupid about is that they give up liberties for false security.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tyler, are you in town? Lets meet at rennie&#8217;s sometime. </p>
<p>WTF does a &#8220;real strategy&#8221; for impeaching Bush have anything to do with the UofO?? I assume you&#8217;ve read our magazine so you cannot dismiss the fact that we do run stories that can have a big impact on campus. </p>
<p>There is no reasonable proof that the towers we brought down by demolition, the war on terror is no more illegal than the IRS, Bush won both elections fair and square according to our system. </p>
<p>Everyone seems so intent on focusing on the symptoms of the disease that is killing America.</p>
<p>I do agree with you that we&#8217;ve been brainwashed - into believing that government does more good than harm. </p>
<p>The only thing Americans are stupid about is that they give up liberties for false security.</p>
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