Comments on: Student Exploitation: Not As Hot As It Sounds http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2006/06/10/student-exploitation-not-as-hot-as-it-sounds/ Free Minds, Free Markets, Free Booze Tue, 02 Dec 2008 14:24:00 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.3.3 By: Boss guy http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2006/06/10/student-exploitation-not-as-hot-as-it-sounds/#comment-26867 Boss guy Thu, 27 Jul 2006 00:56:40 +0000 http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2006/06/10/student-exploitation-not-as-hot-as-it-sounds/#comment-26867 Jesus fucking Christ, Amanda, how many times do I have to tell you to get back to work? My back ain't gonna grease itself. Jesus fucking Christ, Amanda, how many times do I have to tell you to get back to work? My back ain’t gonna grease itself.

]]> By: Andy http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2006/06/10/student-exploitation-not-as-hot-as-it-sounds/#comment-26845 Andy Thu, 27 Jul 2006 00:27:13 +0000 http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2006/06/10/student-exploitation-not-as-hot-as-it-sounds/#comment-26845 Supply and demand Amanda. What you could do is work until your marginal product is *just* above the marginal cost of firing you and hiring someone else ;) Fuck this town! Supply and demand Amanda. What you could do is work until your marginal product is *just* above the marginal cost of firing you and hiring someone else ;)

Fuck this town!

]]> By: Amanda http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2006/06/10/student-exploitation-not-as-hot-as-it-sounds/#comment-26830 Amanda Wed, 26 Jul 2006 23:51:47 +0000 http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2006/06/10/student-exploitation-not-as-hot-as-it-sounds/#comment-26830 I'm currently doing an unpaid internship as its part of my study course. Even though Im working for "free" my boss exploits me by putting too much pressure at times and he knows that I cant esape as there aren't many other companies who offer similar internships which are suited to my course in my town.He tries to bully me or make himself feel good by showing who is the Boss guy. Dismissing my suggestions or my own work even though its very good at times.I am trapped and trying to run as fast as I can. Is there any way I can make this company realize that exploiting free labor means bad work ethics? I’m currently doing an unpaid internship as its part of my study course. Even though Im working for “free” my boss exploits me by putting too much pressure at times and he knows that I cant esape as there aren’t many other companies who offer similar internships which are suited to my course in my town.He tries to bully me or make himself feel good by showing who is the Boss guy. Dismissing my suggestions or my own work even though its very good at times.I am trapped and trying to run as fast as I can. Is there any way I can make this company realize that exploiting free labor means bad work ethics?

]]> By: Timothy http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2006/06/10/student-exploitation-not-as-hot-as-it-sounds/#comment-15665 Timothy Mon, 12 Jun 2006 02:35:19 +0000 http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2006/06/10/student-exploitation-not-as-hot-as-it-sounds/#comment-15665 Reminds me of reading my old OC shit that way. Reminds me of reading my old OC shit that way.

]]> By: Tyler http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2006/06/10/student-exploitation-not-as-hot-as-it-sounds/#comment-15654 Tyler Mon, 12 Jun 2006 00:19:30 +0000 http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2006/06/10/student-exploitation-not-as-hot-as-it-sounds/#comment-15654 Interesting points, Nathaniel. In many professions it is absolutely necessary to gain experience, and the easiest way is often to get an internship. What's strange about Smith and Kemenetz's bitching, however, is how readily available paid internships are within the journalism world (their world). And Kemenetz's arguments almost always rely on surface level carping about how the kids today have it so rough. She draws an awful lot of generational distinctions that are spurious, I believe. Seriously, peruse her writing and be amazed at its mediocrity Interesting points, Nathaniel. In many professions it is absolutely necessary to gain experience, and the easiest way is often to get an internship. What’s strange about Smith and Kemenetz’s bitching, however, is how readily available paid internships are within the journalism world (their world). And Kemenetz’s arguments almost always rely on surface level carping about how the kids today have it so rough. She draws an awful lot of generational distinctions that are spurious, I believe. Seriously, peruse her writing and be amazed at its mediocrity

]]> By: nathaniel http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2006/06/10/student-exploitation-not-as-hot-as-it-sounds/#comment-15626 nathaniel Sun, 11 Jun 2006 20:55:27 +0000 http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2006/06/10/student-exploitation-not-as-hot-as-it-sounds/#comment-15626 The people internships are really exploiting are not students, but rather those who just get out of college. All of that free labor keeps down wages for those who are seeking entry level jobs, plus it makes those jobs harder to find as many of them no longer exist as paying positions but rather unpaid internships. Though what angers me most about my intern experience is I was basically forced to get one to graduate from American University where I got my MA. The reason this angers me was to recieve credit for it, I had to pay the normal tuition rate. This meant I paid about 2800 dollars to work for free. The current system of internships is terrible is because it is very difficult to get a job if you do not work for free. Many people can not afford to do this as they need to earn money to do things like pay rent and eat. Also as the article pointed out, many of the tasks interns perform are not things that allow the intern to improve their skills but rather is often mindless office work. The people internships are really exploiting are not students, but rather those who just get out of college. All of that free labor keeps down wages for those who are seeking entry level jobs, plus it makes those jobs harder to find as many of them no longer exist as paying positions but rather unpaid internships.

Though what angers me most about my intern experience is I was basically forced to get one to graduate from American University where I got my MA. The reason this angers me was to recieve credit for it, I had to pay the normal tuition rate. This meant I paid about 2800 dollars to work for free.

The current system of internships is terrible is because it is very difficult to get a job if you do not work for free. Many people can not afford to do this as they need to earn money to do things like pay rent and eat. Also as the article pointed out, many of the tasks interns perform are not things that allow the intern to improve their skills but rather is often mindless office work.

]]> By: Gabrielle http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2006/06/10/student-exploitation-not-as-hot-as-it-sounds/#comment-15615 Gabrielle Sun, 11 Jun 2006 19:12:22 +0000 http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2006/06/10/student-exploitation-not-as-hot-as-it-sounds/#comment-15615 I, too, was paid for my internship credit. Do your internship with PPPM because they figure payment is between you and your supervisor (not their business). In general you either get credit or pay. It is not that hard of a system to understand. The great thing about an internship is that they should understand when you know nothing or need time to study for mid-terms. My internship was a great experience! I, too, was paid for my internship credit. Do your internship with PPPM because they figure payment is between you and your supervisor (not their business). In general you either get credit or pay. It is not that hard of a system to understand. The great thing about an internship is that they should understand when you know nothing or need time to study for mid-terms. My internship was a great experience!

]]> By: Michael G. http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2006/06/10/student-exploitation-not-as-hot-as-it-sounds/#comment-15561 Michael G. Sun, 11 Jun 2006 07:50:42 +0000 http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2006/06/10/student-exploitation-not-as-hot-as-it-sounds/#comment-15561 Huh. I got paid for every intership I ever did. Perhaps one needs to <i>investigate</i> available internships before applying. Huh. I got paid for every intership I ever did. Perhaps one needs to investigate available internships before applying.

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