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	<title>Comments on: This is Different, We Swear!</title>
	<link>http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2006/05/22/this-is-different-we-swear/</link>
	<description>Free Minds, Free Markets, Free Booze</description>
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		<title>By: Niedermeyer</title>
		<link>http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2006/05/22/this-is-different-we-swear/#comment-12463</link>
		<dc:creator>Niedermeyer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 May 2006 21:17:04 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2006/05/22/this-is-different-we-swear/#comment-12463</guid>
		<description>Matt: I think Pira was casting the Commentator of a year ago as oppressive, which is a fair criticism considering we did disappear 7 dissidents, we rigged an election or two to favor big business interests and ethnically cleansed sections of the West University neighborhood. 

Oh, yeah... and jokes were made. Oppressive jokes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Matt: I think Pira was casting the Commentator of a year ago as oppressive, which is a fair criticism considering we did disappear 7 dissidents, we rigged an election or two to favor big business interests and ethnically cleansed sections of the West University neighborhood. </p>
<p>Oh, yeah&#8230; and jokes were made. Oppressive jokes.</p>
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		<title>By: Timothy</title>
		<link>http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2006/05/22/this-is-different-we-swear/#comment-12462</link>
		<dc:creator>Timothy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 May 2006 20:58:54 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2006/05/22/this-is-different-we-swear/#comment-12462</guid>
		<description>&lt;em&gt;Fighting crazy with more crazy is something different altogether. &lt;/em&gt;

Is this what they mean by "taking the fight to them"?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Fighting crazy with more crazy is something different altogether. </em></p>
<p>Is this what they mean by &#8220;taking the fight to them&#8221;?</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
		<link>http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2006/05/22/this-is-different-we-swear/#comment-12461</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 May 2006 20:58:04 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2006/05/22/this-is-different-we-swear/#comment-12461</guid>
		<description>Yeah, I really don't think the Insurgent is capable of "oppressing" anyone. When I think oppression, I think like slavery, the holocaust, genocide, tyranny. I just don't think of the Marxo-Whatevers over at the Insurgent. The Emerald on the other hand... (kidding.)

My impression is that most reasonable people don't even care that much what they have to say, and a few nut jobs were pissed off by it, but it doesn't seem like anyone out there is being literally bound in chains and or forced away from the election polls by the Insurgent's madness. I refuse to believe the Insurgent has the sheer power necessary to either end oppression or commit it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, I really don&#8217;t think the Insurgent is capable of &#8220;oppressing&#8221; anyone. When I think oppression, I think like slavery, the holocaust, genocide, tyranny. I just don&#8217;t think of the Marxo-Whatevers over at the Insurgent. The Emerald on the other hand&#8230; (kidding.)</p>
<p>My impression is that most reasonable people don&#8217;t even care that much what they have to say, and a few nut jobs were pissed off by it, but it doesn&#8217;t seem like anyone out there is being literally bound in chains and or forced away from the election polls by the Insurgent&#8217;s madness. I refuse to believe the Insurgent has the sheer power necessary to either end oppression or commit it.</p>
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		<title>By: Tyler</title>
		<link>http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2006/05/22/this-is-different-we-swear/#comment-12457</link>
		<dc:creator>Tyler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 May 2006 20:46:05 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2006/05/22/this-is-different-we-swear/#comment-12457</guid>
		<description>Andy: Fighting speech with more speech is laudable. Fighting crazy with more crazy is something different altogether.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Andy: Fighting speech with more speech is laudable. Fighting crazy with more crazy is something different altogether.</p>
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		<title>By: Andy</title>
		<link>http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2006/05/22/this-is-different-we-swear/#comment-12454</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 May 2006 20:31:52 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2006/05/22/this-is-different-we-swear/#comment-12454</guid>
		<description>Pira,
You have no fucking clue what Anarchists believe. It makes me irate that you proclaim yourself as one but the only thing you are is a socialist hypocrite.

You want to end oppression but you oppress another group?

You want the government to intervene to further your beliefs, silence our free speech, and attack the Lord Jesus, whom from all accounts ever written, preached only peace - and you call yourself an Anarchist?

You're a loser pira. I hope you fall on a hot burner.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pira,<br />
You have no fucking clue what Anarchists believe. It makes me irate that you proclaim yourself as one but the only thing you are is a socialist hypocrite.</p>
<p>You want to end oppression but you oppress another group?</p>
<p>You want the government to intervene to further your beliefs, silence our free speech, and attack the Lord Jesus, whom from all accounts ever written, preached only peace - and you call yourself an Anarchist?</p>
<p>You&#8217;re a loser pira. I hope you fall on a hot burner.</p>
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		<title>By: The Master</title>
		<link>http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2006/05/22/this-is-different-we-swear/#comment-12437</link>
		<dc:creator>The Master</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 May 2006 18:46:07 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2006/05/22/this-is-different-we-swear/#comment-12437</guid>
		<description>I think Pira just needs to make love and not war. But, considering she's incapable of doing either...well, that just goes to show ya. 

Besides that point, To end oppression by violating another organization's civil right to free speech and expression via the route that was taken...that's still defunding, plain and simple.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think Pira just needs to make love and not war. But, considering she&#8217;s incapable of doing either&#8230;well, that just goes to show ya. </p>
<p>Besides that point, To end oppression by violating another organization&#8217;s civil right to free speech and expression via the route that was taken&#8230;that&#8217;s still defunding, plain and simple.</p>
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		<title>By: Timothy</title>
		<link>http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2006/05/22/this-is-different-we-swear/#comment-12435</link>
		<dc:creator>Timothy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 May 2006 18:24:46 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2006/05/22/this-is-different-we-swear/#comment-12435</guid>
		<description>'Twould help if you were literate, Pira.  But I long ago stopped believing in unicorns and miracles.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8216;Twould help if you were literate, Pira.  But I long ago stopped believing in unicorns and miracles.</p>
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		<title>By: Pira</title>
		<link>http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2006/05/22/this-is-different-we-swear/#comment-12432</link>
		<dc:creator>Pira</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 May 2006 17:32:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2006/05/22/this-is-different-we-swear/#comment-12432</guid>
		<description>You know, this might be more interesting if I didn't have to correct the attempted criticisms and insults every time...

1. I said this so many times last year I thought it would sink in, but once again: I don't really care about defunding the Commentator. Even if it were possible, I'm sure you could come up with some way of printing it anyway. I am interested in ending oppression (I'm not getting into a strategy description here because it would take too long), and 
2. if I sometimes use tactics that you don't consider "anarchist" enough - well, self-proclaimed dictators of anarchism who do not identify as anarchist themselves just aren't the most credible sources of information on what is anarchist and what is not. And speaking of anarchism, 
3. what's with calling me a pinko? Isn't that a reference to communism? I mean, that's the wrong political affiliation and it's boring. Anarcho-nutball, now that was a derogatory term I could use - it referenced my politics and my affiliation with freedom and justice in mental health. I wish you more clarity and creativity next time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know, this might be more interesting if I didn&#8217;t have to correct the attempted criticisms and insults every time&#8230;</p>
<p>1. I said this so many times last year I thought it would sink in, but once again: I don&#8217;t really care about defunding the Commentator. Even if it were possible, I&#8217;m sure you could come up with some way of printing it anyway. I am interested in ending oppression (I&#8217;m not getting into a strategy description here because it would take too long), and<br />
2. if I sometimes use tactics that you don&#8217;t consider &#8220;anarchist&#8221; enough - well, self-proclaimed dictators of anarchism who do not identify as anarchist themselves just aren&#8217;t the most credible sources of information on what is anarchist and what is not. And speaking of anarchism,<br />
3. what&#8217;s with calling me a pinko? Isn&#8217;t that a reference to communism? I mean, that&#8217;s the wrong political affiliation and it&#8217;s boring. Anarcho-nutball, now that was a derogatory term I could use - it referenced my politics and my affiliation with freedom and justice in mental health. I wish you more clarity and creativity next time.</p>
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		<title>By: Andy</title>
		<link>http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2006/05/22/this-is-different-we-swear/#comment-12353</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 May 2006 20:31:49 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2006/05/22/this-is-different-we-swear/#comment-12353</guid>
		<description>At least it was almost noon...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At least it was almost noon&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Michael G.</title>
		<link>http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2006/05/22/this-is-different-we-swear/#comment-12337</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael G.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 May 2006 20:01:30 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2006/05/22/this-is-different-we-swear/#comment-12337</guid>
		<description>Drink!

P.S.  Well spoken, Timothy!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Drink!</p>
<p>P.S.  Well spoken, Timothy!</p>
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		<title>By: Gabrielle</title>
		<link>http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2006/05/22/this-is-different-we-swear/#comment-12331</link>
		<dc:creator>Gabrielle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 May 2006 19:19:33 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2006/05/22/this-is-different-we-swear/#comment-12331</guid>
		<description>Andy:
Isn't a little early in the day to be talking about hypocrisy?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Andy:<br />
Isn&#8217;t a little early in the day to be talking about hypocrisy?</p>
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		<title>By: Melissa</title>
		<link>http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2006/05/22/this-is-different-we-swear/#comment-12330</link>
		<dc:creator>Melissa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 May 2006 18:53:04 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2006/05/22/this-is-different-we-swear/#comment-12330</guid>
		<description>“The Insurgent attacked Christianity without singling out individual Christians or instigating violence. Christian ideologies dictate our calendars, are taken seriously as potential replacements for science in schools and infuse politics and culture.”


Because my DayPlanner was just taking such a beating from those nasty holidays.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“The Insurgent attacked Christianity without singling out individual Christians or instigating violence. Christian ideologies dictate our calendars, are taken seriously as potential replacements for science in schools and infuse politics and culture.”</p>
<p>Because my DayPlanner was just taking such a beating from those nasty holidays.</p>
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		<title>By: Andy</title>
		<link>http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2006/05/22/this-is-different-we-swear/#comment-12326</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 May 2006 18:29:10 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2006/05/22/this-is-different-we-swear/#comment-12326</guid>
		<description>Casey-
Welcome to the libertarianism.

Tim-
Awesome post. I'm so glad that she wrote that in because it reveals how patently juvenile and ignorant their point-of-view is. And of course it says FORMER contributer...

This is the best part:
"The Insurgent attacked Christianity without singling out individual Christians or instigating violence. Christian ideologies dictate our calendars, are taken seriously as potential replacements for science in schools and infuse politics and culture."

So instead of voicing logical arguments against what they believe to be a "Christian Hegemony," they lash out in the most immature and non-nonsensical way possible! Does anyone even have the faintest idea that the collective was pissed off about the "Hegemony" when they saw those drawings? How do they in anyway convey a message other than intolerance, ignorance, and hate - supposedly the very same attitudes they want to eliminate???

If the collective reads this - all I can say is that you all are gutless, mindless, and pathetic.

Your continious hypocrisy is infinite.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Casey-<br />
Welcome to the libertarianism.</p>
<p>Tim-<br />
Awesome post. I&#8217;m so glad that she wrote that in because it reveals how patently juvenile and ignorant their point-of-view is. And of course it says FORMER contributer&#8230;</p>
<p>This is the best part:<br />
&#8220;The Insurgent attacked Christianity without singling out individual Christians or instigating violence. Christian ideologies dictate our calendars, are taken seriously as potential replacements for science in schools and infuse politics and culture.&#8221;</p>
<p>So instead of voicing logical arguments against what they believe to be a &#8220;Christian Hegemony,&#8221; they lash out in the most immature and non-nonsensical way possible! Does anyone even have the faintest idea that the collective was pissed off about the &#8220;Hegemony&#8221; when they saw those drawings? How do they in anyway convey a message other than intolerance, ignorance, and hate - supposedly the very same attitudes they want to eliminate???</p>
<p>If the collective reads this - all I can say is that you all are gutless, mindless, and pathetic.</p>
<p>Your continious hypocrisy is infinite.</p>
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		<title>By: Niedermeyer</title>
		<link>http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2006/05/22/this-is-different-we-swear/#comment-12325</link>
		<dc:creator>Niedermeyer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 May 2006 18:28:54 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2006/05/22/this-is-different-we-swear/#comment-12325</guid>
		<description>We could call it the Humorless Party. Face it Pira, you didn't get our jokes, and the christians don't get your jokes. I'm thinking we need to lobby for a constitutional ammendment specifically guaranteeing free excercise of mockery. Talk about the ultimate cure for a culture of victimhood.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We could call it the Humorless Party. Face it Pira, you didn&#8217;t get our jokes, and the christians don&#8217;t get your jokes. I&#8217;m thinking we need to lobby for a constitutional ammendment specifically guaranteeing free excercise of mockery. Talk about the ultimate cure for a culture of victimhood.</p>
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		<title>By: Casey</title>
		<link>http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2006/05/22/this-is-different-we-swear/#comment-12304</link>
		<dc:creator>Casey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 May 2006 16:34:24 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2006/05/22/this-is-different-we-swear/#comment-12304</guid>
		<description>When are the far right and the far left going to combine to form their own super-party?  They have so many similarities that it only makes sense for the free-speech hating left and right to Voltron.  Fascists have the hardest time understanding synergy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When are the far right and the far left going to combine to form their own super-party?  They have so many similarities that it only makes sense for the free-speech hating left and right to Voltron.  Fascists have the hardest time understanding synergy.</p>
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