Comments on: That “D” word again… http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2006/05/02/that-d-word-again/ Free Minds, Free Markets, Free Booze Wed, 07 Jan 2009 19:53:37 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.5 By: Amy http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2006/05/02/that-d-word-again/#comment-10639 Amy Sat, 06 May 2006 02:20:50 +0000 http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2006/05/02/that-d-word-again/#comment-10639 Actually, I don't think I would. You see, words can have different meanings even if they're spelled the same way. You cleverly used the word "liberal" as an adjective AND as a noun. There are a lot of words like that - take "book" for example. A "book" can be defined as "a printed or written literary work" (thank you, dictionary.com). However (now this is the tricky part), it can also be used as a verb. I know it's a stretch, but go with me here. The verb "book" can be defined as "to arrange for in advance; reserve." My argument before still stands. Anthony is a hypocrite. Even if he meant "Diversity", he still doesn't respect differing opinions - something he wants others to do for him. Actually, I don’t think I would. You see, words can have different meanings even if they’re spelled the same way. You cleverly used the word “liberal” as an adjective AND as a noun. There are a lot of words like that - take “book” for example. A “book” can be defined as “a printed or written literary work” (thank you, dictionary.com). However (now this is the tricky part), it can also be used as a verb. I know it’s a stretch, but go with me here. The verb “book” can be defined as “to arrange for in advance; reserve.”

My argument before still stands. Anthony is a hypocrite. Even if he meant “Diversity”, he still doesn’t respect differing opinions - something he wants others to do for him.

]]> By: Andy http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2006/05/02/that-d-word-again/#comment-10566 Andy Thu, 04 May 2006 16:10:44 +0000 http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2006/05/02/that-d-word-again/#comment-10566 So if I said, "we need a more liberal student conduct code because liberals have put in overreaching punishments," you'd call me a hypocrite right? Please. So if I said, “we need a more liberal student conduct code because liberals have put in overreaching punishments,” you’d call me a hypocrite right? Please.

]]> By: Amy http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2006/05/02/that-d-word-again/#comment-10529 Amy Thu, 04 May 2006 08:02:22 +0000 http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2006/05/02/that-d-word-again/#comment-10529 Andy, I think the only reason he capitalized "diversity" was because it was at the beginning of the sentence. When he used it the first time, he didn't capitalize it: "I can’t stand diversity and all this talk about it." My point was that he's contradicting himself. Whether "diversity" or "Diversity" is good or bad isn't the issue. Well, at least in my post it wasn't. Andy, I think the only reason he capitalized “diversity” was because it was at the beginning of the sentence. When he used it the first time, he didn’t capitalize it:
“I can’t stand diversity and all this talk about it.”

My point was that he’s contradicting himself. Whether “diversity” or “Diversity” is good or bad isn’t the issue. Well, at least in my post it wasn’t.

]]> By: Andy http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2006/05/02/that-d-word-again/#comment-10527 Andy Thu, 04 May 2006 07:39:38 +0000 http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2006/05/02/that-d-word-again/#comment-10527 We're all so literal here aren't we... "Diversity" is just another newspeak word. Just like "Liberal," it has been hijacked to conform to progressive ideology. Anthony says Diversity is bad, but he wants diversity on campus. Comprende? I would be classified as "Diverse" because my dad came from south america, and I grew up poor. But apparently my diversity of opinion wasn't appreciated in my WGS101 class when I was openly mocked by various discussion leaders. Anthony is right: I'm pretty sure none of the Hiring Plans that stem from the Diversity Plan will include any emphasis on diversity of thought or ideology. We’re all so literal here aren’t we…

“Diversity” is just another newspeak word. Just like “Liberal,” it has been hijacked to conform to progressive ideology. Anthony says Diversity is bad, but he wants diversity on campus. Comprende?

I would be classified as “Diverse” because my dad came from south america, and I grew up poor. But apparently my diversity of opinion wasn’t appreciated in my WGS101 class when I was openly mocked by various discussion leaders.

Anthony is right: I’m pretty sure none of the Hiring Plans that stem from the Diversity Plan will include any emphasis on diversity of thought or ideology.

]]> By: JA http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2006/05/02/that-d-word-again/#comment-10504 JA Thu, 04 May 2006 01:02:13 +0000 http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2006/05/02/that-d-word-again/#comment-10504 And on that Anthony, consider yourself bashed... Diversity: 1 Anthony: 0 And on that Anthony, consider yourself bashed…

Diversity: 1 Anthony: 0

]]> By: C.G. http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2006/05/02/that-d-word-again/#comment-10464 C.G. Wed, 03 May 2006 18:54:30 +0000 http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2006/05/02/that-d-word-again/#comment-10464 This blog entry surprised me. What is the campus climate on issues like political/racial/gender diversity at UO? On a scale of 1 to 10, where would you guys rate UO's diversity sphincter-factor? As far as the word "Republican" being mentioned at such a meeting, I'm surprised to hear that it wasn't used primarily as an insult. Of course, that could have something to do with the growing sense among the left that the Republicans are on their way out of power and are thus less threatening. I suspect a new boogie-man must begin development very soon in the shadowy recesses of the Daily Kos. My bet is that it's going to be evangelicals. Here's some good news on the anti-diversity-fetish front: http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/news/14476710.htm Quote: "Dismissing the defense contentions that money was raised for charities, [Judge] Moody said: `Your only connection to widows and orphans was that you create them.''" Surprise, surprise -- yet one more judge in this country who can find his baskside with both hands. This blog entry surprised me. What is the campus climate on issues like political/racial/gender diversity at UO? On a scale of 1 to 10, where would you guys rate UO’s diversity sphincter-factor?

As far as the word “Republican” being mentioned at such a meeting, I’m surprised to hear that it wasn’t used primarily as an insult. Of course, that could have something to do with the growing sense among the left that the Republicans are on their way out of power and are thus less threatening. I suspect a new boogie-man must begin development very soon in the shadowy recesses of the Daily Kos. My bet is that it’s going to be evangelicals.

Here’s some good news on the anti-diversity-fetish front: http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/news/14476710.htm

Quote:
“Dismissing the defense contentions that money was raised for charities, [Judge] Moody said: `Your only connection to widows and orphans was that you create them.””

Surprise, surprise — yet one more judge in this country who can find his baskside with both hands.

]]> By: Bill Harbaugh http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2006/05/02/that-d-word-again/#comment-10461 Bill Harbaugh Wed, 03 May 2006 18:31:19 +0000 http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2006/05/02/that-d-word-again/#comment-10461 The correct URL for my diversity stuff is http://nanonomics.typepad.com/ and the political data is at http://darkwing.uoregon.edu/~harbaugh/UODiversity/ I did a special Libertarian tab for y'all. Sorry, it's 3 out of 506 professors. If you want to know who, take a few econometrics classes and then I'll give you the data. Bill The correct URL for my diversity stuff is

http://nanonomics.typepad.com/

and the political data is at

http://darkwing.uoregon.edu/~harbaugh/UODiversity/

I did a special Libertarian tab for y’all. Sorry, it’s 3 out of 506 professors. If you want to know who, take a few econometrics classes and then I’ll give you the data.

Bill

]]> By: Michael G. http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2006/05/02/that-d-word-again/#comment-10439 Michael G. Wed, 03 May 2006 14:57:46 +0000 http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2006/05/02/that-d-word-again/#comment-10439 Oh, I wholly agree, Olly. Mainly those were examples people were giving as examples of diversity that aren't even considered in the plan. The plan only deals with skin color in a lot of people's eyes. I was just surprised at how many times the word "Republican" was mentioned. Almost everyone opposed to this plan wants faculty hirings to take place for only one reason: They are among the best in their field and can teach. Oh, I wholly agree, Olly. Mainly those were examples people were giving as examples of diversity that aren’t even considered in the plan. The plan only deals with skin color in a lot of people’s eyes. I was just surprised at how many times the word “Republican” was mentioned.

Almost everyone opposed to this plan wants faculty hirings to take place for only one reason: They are among the best in their field and can teach.

]]> By: Olly http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2006/05/02/that-d-word-again/#comment-10425 Olly Wed, 03 May 2006 09:28:08 +0000 http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2006/05/02/that-d-word-again/#comment-10425 "To the Republicans on campus: There are some faculty members here who understand that intellectual and political diversity is valuable." Right, but I sincerely hope that if the UO ever decided to start prioritizing the hiring of Republicans and assessing the "progress" made by different departments based on how many Republicans they hired, we'd all be opposed to that, as well. "Political diversity" on campus may be a <i>nice</i> thing to have, in a touchy-feely sort of way, but it has absolutely nothing to do with the mission of the university, which is to teach and to produce scholarship. Anything that impedes that mission should be regarded with the utmost scepticism. “To the Republicans on campus: There are some faculty members here who understand that intellectual and political diversity is valuable.”

Right, but I sincerely hope that if the UO ever decided to start prioritizing the hiring of Republicans and assessing the “progress” made by different departments based on how many Republicans they hired, we’d all be opposed to that, as well.

“Political diversity” on campus may be a nice thing to have, in a touchy-feely sort of way, but it has absolutely nothing to do with the mission of the university, which is to teach and to produce scholarship. Anything that impedes that mission should be regarded with the utmost scepticism.

]]> By: Amy http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2006/05/02/that-d-word-again/#comment-10422 Amy Wed, 03 May 2006 08:20:14 +0000 http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2006/05/02/that-d-word-again/#comment-10422 I just don't know if Anthony understands that the comment he made above is a big contradictory statement. First he says that diversity is bad, then states that we should focus on differing opinions. Last time I checked, diversity = different things, not the same thing over and over again... Hmm... I just don’t know if Anthony understands that the comment he made above is a big contradictory statement. First he says that diversity is bad, then states that we should focus on differing opinions. Last time I checked, diversity = different things, not the same thing over and over again… Hmm…

]]> By: JA http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2006/05/02/that-d-word-again/#comment-10421 JA Wed, 03 May 2006 07:58:58 +0000 http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2006/05/02/that-d-word-again/#comment-10421 Why don't you go shoot a gun or something Anthony. You have a point about encouraging ideological equality on campus put it seems that every good idea that comes out of your mouth is overshadowed by the ignorant statements that seem to follow it. You will never accomplish anything significant to better this worl because you yourself don't honor other ideologies. Try practicing what you preach if you want to ever do anything besides bitching and moaning. Why don’t you go shoot a gun or something Anthony. You have a point about encouraging ideological equality on campus put it seems that every good idea that comes out of your mouth is overshadowed by the ignorant statements that seem to follow it. You will never accomplish anything significant to better this worl because you yourself don’t honor other ideologies. Try practicing what you preach if you want to ever do anything besides bitching and moaning.

]]> By: Anthony http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2006/05/02/that-d-word-again/#comment-10419 Anthony Wed, 03 May 2006 06:29:16 +0000 http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2006/05/02/that-d-word-again/#comment-10419 I can't stand diversity and all this talk about it. Diversity is an evil word used by the left to spread its message of overwhelming disgusting tolerance for everything under the sun. Why don't we focus on differing ideological opinions on campus? That is what college should focus on. I can’t stand diversity and all this talk about it. Diversity is an evil word used by the left to spread its message of overwhelming disgusting tolerance for everything under the sun. Why don’t we focus on differing ideological opinions on campus? That is what college should focus on.

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