Comments on: I Hate Lawyers http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2004/06/01/i-hate-lawyers/ Free Minds, Free Markets, Free Booze Sun, 07 Sep 2008 20:02:35 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.3.3 By: Timothy http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2004/06/01/i-hate-lawyers/#comment-2493 Timothy Tue, 01 Jun 2004 19:01:34 +0000 http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2004/06/01/i-hate-lawyers/#comment-2493 fair enough. fair enough.

]]> By: Danimal http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2004/06/01/i-hate-lawyers/#comment-2492 Danimal Tue, 01 Jun 2004 18:58:36 +0000 http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2004/06/01/i-hate-lawyers/#comment-2492 No, actually, I don't. But, as admitted, I don't know diddly about that particular area of law. I'm just extrapolating from the principles I do know. No, actually, I don’t. But, as admitted, I don’t know diddly about that particular area of law. I’m just extrapolating from the principles I do know.

]]> By: Timothy http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2004/06/01/i-hate-lawyers/#comment-2491 Timothy Tue, 01 Jun 2004 18:29:25 +0000 http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2004/06/01/i-hate-lawyers/#comment-2491 Dan: seems reasonable, but do you think another attorney might use how harebrained this scheme is to indicate that the lawyer is clearly a nut and therefore incapable of representing his client well? Admittedly, I'm certainly not a trial lawyer so I'm way out in SpeculationLand here. Dan: seems reasonable, but do you think another attorney might use how harebrained this scheme is to indicate that the lawyer is clearly a nut and therefore incapable of representing his client well? Admittedly, I’m certainly not a trial lawyer so I’m way out in SpeculationLand here.

]]> By: Danimal http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2004/06/01/i-hate-lawyers/#comment-2490 Danimal Tue, 01 Jun 2004 15:20:30 +0000 http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2004/06/01/i-hate-lawyers/#comment-2490 Tim: I'm not nearly as certain as you are about that. Admittedly knowing next to nothing about the subject, my gut instinct is that an affirmative attempt to mount a particular defense cannot lead to an appeal on incompetent advocacy. Those normally apply when the lawyer doesn't try hard enough, not when he tries way too hard. He's trying this tactic, it will fail, and then he'll go on to try another tack. That's zealous advocacy, not incompetence. Olly: Yes indeed. We were all slaves, once. Let's go out and kill! Tim: I’m not nearly as certain as you are about that. Admittedly knowing next to nothing about the subject, my gut instinct is that an affirmative attempt to mount a particular defense cannot lead to an appeal on incompetent advocacy. Those normally apply when the lawyer doesn’t try hard enough, not when he tries way too hard. He’s trying this tactic, it will fail, and then he’ll go on to try another tack. That’s zealous advocacy, not incompetence.

Olly: Yes indeed. We were all slaves, once. Let’s go out and kill!

]]> By: Olly http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2004/06/01/i-hate-lawyers/#comment-2489 Olly Tue, 01 Jun 2004 15:11:05 +0000 http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2004/06/01/i-hate-lawyers/#comment-2489 You beat me to that one by twenty minutes. Damn you, Atkinson. My 2 cents: Given the way the history of the world has generally been, the potential for fun with reductio ad absurdum arguments based upon "post-traumatic slave syndrome" should be virtually endless. You beat me to that one by twenty minutes. Damn you, Atkinson. My 2 cents: Given the way the history of the world has generally been, the potential for fun with reductio ad absurdum arguments based upon “post-traumatic slave syndrome” should be virtually endless.

]]> By: Timothy http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2004/06/01/i-hate-lawyers/#comment-2488 Timothy Tue, 01 Jun 2004 15:05:01 +0000 http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2004/06/01/i-hate-lawyers/#comment-2488 Well, we know the guy is going to have grounds for an appeal based on incompetent representation. Goddamn. Well, we know the guy is going to have grounds for an appeal based on incompetent representation. Goddamn.

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