Comments on: Shakra Was A Rolling Stone http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2004/04/29/shakra-was-a-rolling-stone/ Free Minds, Free Markets, Free Booze Thu, 04 Dec 2008 01:05:59 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.3.3 By: Olly http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2004/04/29/shakra-was-a-rolling-stone/#comment-2357 Olly Wed, 05 May 2004 18:17:51 +0000 http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2004/04/29/shakra-was-a-rolling-stone/#comment-2357 Sure. Come and get it, Stan. Sure. Come and get it, Stan.

]]> By: Stan http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2004/04/29/shakra-was-a-rolling-stone/#comment-2356 Stan Wed, 05 May 2004 06:00:15 +0000 http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2004/04/29/shakra-was-a-rolling-stone/#comment-2356 We have songbirds round here that have started learning fairly accurate renditions of mobile phones and car alarms. Also: Aaron Shakra is Alan Sokal, and I claim my five dollars. We have songbirds round here that have started learning fairly accurate renditions of mobile phones and car alarms.

Also: Aaron Shakra is Alan Sokal, and I claim my five dollars.

]]> By: Tyler http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2004/04/29/shakra-was-a-rolling-stone/#comment-2355 Tyler Mon, 03 May 2004 15:58:18 +0000 http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2004/04/29/shakra-was-a-rolling-stone/#comment-2355 My above post should read: "I'm not sure about your office-mate's assertion that only MALE songbirds sing..." Yep, I'm an idiot. Or maybe just sleep deprived. My above post should read: “I’m not sure about your office-mate’s assertion that only MALE songbirds sing…” Yep, I’m an idiot. Or maybe just sleep deprived.

]]> By: Danimal http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2004/04/29/shakra-was-a-rolling-stone/#comment-2354 Danimal Mon, 03 May 2004 12:41:19 +0000 http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2004/04/29/shakra-was-a-rolling-stone/#comment-2354 Are songbirds, too, victims of compulsive heterosexuality? Someone should look into this . . . Are songbirds, too, victims of compulsive heterosexuality? Someone should look into this . . .

]]> By: Tyler http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2004/04/29/shakra-was-a-rolling-stone/#comment-2353 Tyler Mon, 03 May 2004 12:15:32 +0000 http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2004/04/29/shakra-was-a-rolling-stone/#comment-2353 I'm not sure about your office-mate's assertion that only songbirds sing, but it is interesting to note that songbirds have different regional dialects, just like humans. So, if you put a songbird in isolated captivity, it will not learn to communicate in the same way as the other birds in its family... I guess that isn't really interesting come to think of it... I’m not sure about your office-mate’s assertion that only songbirds sing, but it is interesting to note that songbirds have different regional dialects, just like humans. So, if you put a songbird in isolated captivity, it will not learn to communicate in the same way as the other birds in its family…

I guess that isn’t really interesting come to think of it…

]]> By: Olly http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2004/04/29/shakra-was-a-rolling-stone/#comment-2352 Olly Fri, 30 Apr 2004 18:40:16 +0000 http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2004/04/29/shakra-was-a-rolling-stone/#comment-2352 Moreover, I'm not absolutely positive of this, but my office-mate reckons that only the male songbirds actually sing... Moreover, I’m not absolutely positive of this, but my office-mate reckons that only the male songbirds actually sing…

]]> By: Olly http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2004/04/29/shakra-was-a-rolling-stone/#comment-2351 Olly Fri, 30 Apr 2004 17:59:30 +0000 http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2004/04/29/shakra-was-a-rolling-stone/#comment-2351 I had the dubious pleasure of gender-exclusive education as an early adolescent: I would say the effect on boys is neutral going on bad. There's a definite upside to keeping people's adolescent relations with the opposite sex clearly separate from their academic advancement (where gender shouldn't be an issue) - on the other hand, if people don't learn how to interact with boys/girls as actual people rather than mysterious far-away creatures during adolescence, when are they going to? (And yes, insofar as that question applies to me, it is purely rhetorical.) I had the dubious pleasure of gender-exclusive education as an early adolescent: I would say the effect on boys is neutral going on bad.

There’s a definite upside to keeping people’s adolescent relations with the opposite sex clearly separate from their academic advancement (where gender shouldn’t be an issue) - on the other hand, if people don’t learn how to interact with boys/girls as actual people rather than mysterious far-away creatures during adolescence, when are they going to?

(And yes, insofar as that question applies to me, it is purely rhetorical.)

]]> By: Tommy Gunn http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2004/04/29/shakra-was-a-rolling-stone/#comment-2350 Tommy Gunn Fri, 30 Apr 2004 16:31:07 +0000 http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2004/04/29/shakra-was-a-rolling-stone/#comment-2350 I can't cite a particular study offhand, but I believe that it's generally found that "spatial separation between boys and girls" during early adolescence (gender exclusive schools or classes) helps girls become more confident teenagers and adults. The effect on boys is neutral. I can’t cite a particular study offhand, but I believe that it’s generally found that “spatial separation between boys and girls” during early adolescence (gender exclusive schools or classes) helps girls become more confident teenagers and adults. The effect on boys is neutral.

]]> By: Danimal http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2004/04/29/shakra-was-a-rolling-stone/#comment-2349 Danimal Thu, 29 Apr 2004 21:50:54 +0000 http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2004/04/29/shakra-was-a-rolling-stone/#comment-2349 Quoting not Shakra but whatever maniac he's reading this week:'woman/man,' and especially 'femininity/masculinity' are categories loaded with heterosexual meanings.Wow, man. That's insightful. Let's see where we can take this. Check out this thought experiment: 'male/male' Are we picking up any homosexual meanings? Eh? OK, how about this: 'female/female' Eh? Hoo yeah! You know what I'm talkin' bout! Quoting not Shakra but whatever maniac he’s reading this week:’woman/man,’ and especially ‘femininity/masculinity’ are categories loaded with heterosexual meanings.Wow, man. That’s insightful. Let’s see where we can take this. Check out this thought experiment:

‘male/male’

Are we picking up any homosexual meanings? Eh? OK, how about this:

‘female/female’

Eh? Hoo yeah! You know what I’m talkin’ bout!

]]> By: Courtney http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2004/04/29/shakra-was-a-rolling-stone/#comment-2348 Courtney Thu, 29 Apr 2004 21:27:37 +0000 http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2004/04/29/shakra-was-a-rolling-stone/#comment-2348 I've always found songbirds to be emblematic of the patriarchy, forcing their songs on the public at large without taking anyone but themselves into consideration. It's an aural rape culture. On a side note: Walking to work this morning, I inadvertently stumbled upon the Men's Center 1st annual walk against sexual assault (or something like that). Amusingly enough, there seemed to be around six men and twenty women in this march -- though a couple of those men were in the back of the group and may simply have been walking to class. I’ve always found songbirds to be emblematic of the patriarchy, forcing their songs on the public at large without taking anyone but themselves into consideration. It’s an aural rape culture.

On a side note: Walking to work this morning, I inadvertently stumbled upon the Men’s Center 1st annual walk against sexual assault (or something like that). Amusingly enough, there seemed to be around six men and twenty women in this march — though a couple of those men were in the back of the group and may simply have been walking to class.

]]> By: Billy Name http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2004/04/29/shakra-was-a-rolling-stone/#comment-2347 Billy Name Thu, 29 Apr 2004 20:11:13 +0000 http://www.oregoncommentator.com/2004/04/29/shakra-was-a-rolling-stone/#comment-2347 How Childish How Childish

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